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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 56 ford custom, Jun 12, 2009.

  1. 56 ford custom
    Joined: Aug 22, 2006
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    56 ford custom
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    So should I go ahead and hone out that one cylinder or do all of them? Also when I hone it out, would that make me have to get different rings and or pistons?
     
  2. 39 All Ford
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    39 All Ford
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    Two words...

    MACHINE SHOP...

    Take the block to a pro so you have a better chance of making the right choice.
     
  3. choppintops
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    choppintops
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    Just sleeve the one cylinder.
     
  4. 56 ford custom
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    56 ford custom
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    I need to find a machine shop around here.
     
  5. 461/2ton
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    Any machine shop can determine the bore status. They dont need special experience with Y's. The common piston to bore clearance is .002. They can also add to the many opinions regarding the chip.
     
  6. plymouth1952
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    Where you at bud send a message.
     
  7. 56 ford custom
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    56 ford custom
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    Im in La mirada, Ca
     
  8. F-6Garagerat
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    This one is a 56 ford truck block (272 I think) that was factory re-manufactured back in the day and its .090 over, there is a tag with the specs on the side of the block. No problems, runs fine.
     

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  9. 56 ford custom
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    56 ford custom
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    So f-6garagerat, what were you trying to get at? Sorry im just alittle confused on your post. Was it trying to prove you can bore more then .60 over and be fine?
     
  10. ocfab
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    I have taken all my stuff to,
    National Crankshaft Co.
    1815 S Lewis St
    Anaheim, CA 92805 (714) 634-3803

    they do good work for a good price
     
  11. ynottayblock
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    you can find cheap blocks out there, I bought a 292 out of a 55 t-bird for $50
     
  12. Your question about honing keeps getting answered with a "see a machinist" because the pistons must fit the holes they run in, too loose and they will be noisy, they might break, and the rings won't seal. Too tight and they will seize and/or score. A visit to someone with this knowledge is normally painless and well worth the time invested. You never know what size the guy bored it to, there might be some meat left in there for honing to fit, which would have been the right thing to do. Also, try as I may, I can't make out any scratches in your photos except the cross hatch.
     
  13. F-6Garagerat
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    Nope. Just that I know of one (272) that is. So, in some instances, depending on the original displacement I would guess, It's possible. This was a factory authorized re-manufactured engine, which I'm sure Ford farmed out to an independant re-builder. But there must have been specs they had to adhere to. Could you go .090 over on a 292 or 312? I dont know.
     
  14. FLAT6
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    Engine Supply in Santa Ana, best place PERIOD. Talk to Mike, the owner, and tell him Mike sent you, he will take care of you. Phone# is 714-556-0310

    Mike
     
  15. 56 ford custom
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    Im gonna go with engine supply and give mike a call, thanks flat6
     
  16. You can bore a good 292 block way over .60 os I have mine at 3.860 standard is 3.75. Sonic test to ensure you can is wise. Got the 292 out to 309 Cube.

    I used 60 over 312 pistons in the 292. Standard 312 is 3.80 bore.

    http://www.ford-y-block.com/displacement.htm
     
  17. 333 Half Evil
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    The chip out of the retainer for the rear seal is not big deal at all. I've ***embled some with worse breakouts than that and not one of them evr leaked. When you install the seal, the end of the seal that is where the broken pice is, should be left sticking(rotated) up so when the main cap goes on the seal end will sit on the retainer of the main cap I usually rotate(offest) all two piece seals this way so the tips of the seals are not inline with the ends of the cap/block. By doing it this way, you will not have any problems with seal alignment and no leaks.

    As for the ridges, I cannot see them for sure. Are they spaced apart in such a manner that they might have been left behind from stuck rings? This could have been bored and put together before, then the guy you bought it fom just had it honed? Not sure just asking. If this is the case, I'd check the bore size to the pistons you have, and if they are any pistons that would be on the tight side of tolerence then go ahead and try to hone it some and see where you end up. If this was a frsh bore and finish hone, then I'd think the wall is cracked, that is probably why the guy sold it. This is just some guessing.... I myself would measure the bore and your pistons, if you have one that would be tight in this bore, go ahead and hone it to size for the piston and see what you end up with. Good luck.
     
  18. bigdog
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    Threads six months old, he's probably got it fixed by now.
     

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