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Hot Rods Shifter arms

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 2OLD2FAST, Apr 1, 2021.

  1. 2OLD2FAST
    Joined: Feb 3, 2010
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    Has anyone ever lengthened their manual floor shifter arms to reduce( shorten) the shifter throw ?
     
  2. AVater
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    Please correct me: if you made the arms longer, wouldn’t that make for an easier but longer throw? Kind of like a lever.
     
  3. Moriarity
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    I think he may be talking about the arms on the shifter, shifters are made of hardened steel and welding on them is tricky... what kind of shifter are you talking about?
     
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  4. onetrickpony
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    I've played with the arm lengths on an automatic column to line the shift indicator up with the detents on the trans lever.

    On a manual, most performance type floor shifters have shorter arms for the transmission to reduce the shifter throw. I guess you could also lengthen the arms on the shifter below the pivot for the same effect.
     
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  5. Tnee27
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    Lot easier to drill new holes in the shifter arms closer to the pivot. Arms are hard and require high quality bits and lots of lube.
     
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  6. Johnny Gee
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    No but I've made my own trans levers that were shorter and clocked according to my needs.
     
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  7. Fabulous50's
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    I've shortened the levers on the trans. Or as stated, drilled new holes closer to the pivot which effectively shortens the throw.

    This was done on column shift, to deduce the up and down travel.
     
  8. 2OLD2FAST
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    Hurst comp plus
     
  9. 2OLD2FAST
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    Since you're pre-disposed to knowing what's in my mind & what I want , an answer from me shouldn't be required ... I've never communicated with a clairvoyant before , something new :p
     
  10. 2OLD2FAST
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    Ill have to take a look , if I remember correctly , there's not enough space to drill another set of holes ?
     
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  11. I apologize. I should have been more clear that I wasn't making a jab at you. I believe that there are plenty of good reasons to modify shifters, especially when it comes to piecing together various parts.
    I was too quick to grump about something that's probably OT to your thread start.
     
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  12. 2OLD2FAST
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    Apology accepted ! Many years ago I drove some " sports cars" that you could basically shift with your wrist , when you're young , throwing your upper body into a shift pretty much goes unnoticed. As your body ages , its a bit more relaxing to not have expend any more energy than necessary when cruising the countryside , I'm just looking for a happy medium , the shifter handle I made is only about 10" tall. But I'd still appreciate a bit less throw .
     
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  13. D. GLOVER
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    from pa

    Here is is my 2 cents, the arms are on the trans, the levers are in the shifter. The Hurst comp plus shifter
    length of the levers are matched to the 4 spd trans. So if you have a diff. shifter, that is made for a T-10, or
    a muncie, a change would be in order. Also, consider the stop bolts when making a special.
     
  14. mgtstumpy
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    I had a Hurst Super Shifter years ago with a Muncie 4sp. The shifter sat slighter higher than a Comp+, a more direct and shorter throw with a narrow gate. Shift rods weren't bent but straight.
     
  15. Mr48chev
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    True you could lengthen the levers on the shifter but one more thing to contend with is the angle that it puts the shift rods at. Hurst put a lot of effort into getting the angles just right so that everything works smoothly and when you change those angles you may take the smoothly out of it.
    I've driven a couple of rigs that guys used home made or not what was originally designed to work with that shifter on that transmission brackets that set the shifter at a different height than designed and you could feel the shift arms want to over center when you shifted.
     

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