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Technical Shortening a torque tube rear

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by 2 more doors, Jan 16, 2016.

  1. 2 more doors
    Joined: Oct 7, 2013
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    Has anybody or does anybody know of a way to shorten a torque tube rear to allow set back of a motor?
     
  2. Bader2
    Joined: May 19, 2014
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    Bader2

    Umm? Cut it,shorten it,weld it back together?
     
  3. HellsHotRods
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    I've done several-- back on the old HAMB I did a tech article with pics but it has dissapeared. Basically you need a cold saw or something to cut it perfectly straight. We cut left about 4" of the rear piece that bolts to the 3rd member and turned that in a lathe to get a mating lip on it. Then we set it in a jig to TIG weld it up. The driveshaft also has to be shortened. You can use a coupler for this. When you cut the driveshaft down, it will be a smaller diameter than the ends, you will slide half of the coupler onto this. TIG weld around it . Pre drill 4 equally spaced holes in the couple and use this to weld into. Measuring is duper critical as you want the trans mount and u-joints to fit right, not binding and not off.
     
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  4. As stated above the outer tube is a walk in the park, just keep it square. Also know that Speedway makes a cut to fit inner shaft/tube. If you do have the solid apx. 1" solid shaft I have welded the coupler on as stated above with no issues.
    The Wizzard
     
  5. Marty Strode
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    This is how I do the inner drive shaft. After turning a path on the shaft, I bore the coupler to a tap-on fit, and using a "V" mill cutter, machine 2 slots, and weld it up, IMG_2608.JPG IMG_2609.JPG let it cool in a bucket of kitty litter.
     
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  6. 2 more doors
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    Thanks for everyone's input hopefully I can pull it of. I have three rear sections so I can only screw it up twice. Hopefully third times a charm!
     
  7. 1935ply
    Joined: Oct 21, 2007
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    I just shortened a 34 tt for my model a. I cut it with a pipe cutter.Be sure your rear axle is square to the frame or you will get rear steer.
     
  8. Russco
    Joined: Nov 27, 2005
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    I've done it too on a '40 Torque tube for my Av8. It's not terribly hard, just needs to be straight when welded back together. I used a cut to length tubular drive shaft kit from Dick Spadaro but made a new tube from 4130 instead of the one that came from Dick because it was pretty thin and was weak.
     
  9. Rusty
    Joined: Mar 4, 2004
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    Here's the last one I did ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1453404120.060968.jpg

    Squared the end up on the lathe
    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1453404196.909999.jpg

    Mocked up (here's where a good first line comes in hand
    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1453404292.120802.jpg

    And here another way to shorten driveshaft if you have access to a lathe

    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1453404356.953726.jpg

    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1453404429.226209.jpg
     
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  10. 2 more doors
    Joined: Oct 7, 2013
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    That's the way I would like to do instead of a coupler. I think reaming the tube and welding in the slug will keep tube truer than relying on a knock on coupler. How far in does the slug go?
     
  11. I did mine the same way as Dirtys Speed Shop did. Inserted inner about 3in''.
    at the time I didn't have access to a lathe so it was done by more conventional hand tools.
    take it to get strait/or balanced at a driveline shop after.
    You should be fine if you take your time and deliver good welds.

    the keyways on the drums are the week spot of a banjo rear.
    good luck
     
  12. 2 more doors
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    Not a banjo, it's out of a 52 chevy deluxe. Does that change my plans? I've never cut one open before.
     

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