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Sick of Bondo - What's better?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by stickylifter, May 16, 2005.

  1. Merc63
    Joined: Apr 12, 2005
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    Let me guess, you're still using a cheesegrater to get the sticky surface off the top and using pinhole filer afterwards, right? There's a reason most of us have gone to newer, better chemical blends for our fillers. :D

    Yes he does!

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8318
     
  2. dodgerodder
    Joined: Feb 15, 2005
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    Just to add something to all the other advice. Though it is not what is causing your problems, mixing the filler and hardener to the proper ratio is critical to the filler holding up and not caausing paint/primer problems. Over-catalyzed filler is the worst thing to do. Alot of guys mix it hot to reduce dry time. The problem that happens is that the over-catalyzed filler soaks up pigments of primer, and mainly paint, to leave the area where the filler is applied flat in color, with no gloss at all. Of course this is way more obvious if your car is painted shiny, but it will still affect and show thru primer as well, just not as bad.
    I don't know the technical reasons for this, but have seen it many times. I'm sure a body-guy from the panel could give the real reason this happens though. I've heard body-guys call it a "fried-egg", and thats pretty much what it looks like under the topcoat.

    Kinda off-topic, but just a thought, hope it helps a bit!
     
  3. Ahem.

    That would be "Rage Xtreme" :)

    Of course it comes in a pink can and they spelled Extreme without the first 'E'.
     
  4. Yo Baby
    Joined: Jul 11, 2004
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    :cool: Lead,70/30.LOL
     
  5. BigChief
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    Just because two products are made by the same company doesn't mean they're the same grade of product....or even similar in composition despite the fact that they are used the same way. Chevettes and Eldorados are both made by General Motors and they both get you to point A to point B....but its how comfortable the trip was thats so different between the two. Same goes for lots of products, body filler included. The formulations of Rage Extreme and Bondo *are* different. So are the ease of use and final results, especially when used uder modern primers and overcoats.

    -Bigchief.
     
  6. I stand corrected:)
     
  7. rev616
    Joined: Jul 7, 2004
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    you can do the same thing with non dairy creamer in the paper packets
     
  8. Im sick of bondo too..

    As many of you guys know im a young gun, and trying to learn everywhere i can. Started to play with lead the other day, on a trial and basis. It came out shitty, but im learning...

    Maybe one day ill post up the attempt, but untill then im back in the garage trying to get better...

    steve-
     
  9. Dude, they didn't offer Ebonics when I went to school..... :p

    Thanks for the...ahem.....correction :D
     
  10. 55olds88
    Joined: Jul 23, 2001
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    Or just about any fine powder......hense they are real uncomfortable about sparks/flames etc at flour mills and the like, it all has to do with the airspace between the fine particles from memory.
     
  11. Bondoboy
    Joined: Apr 14, 2005
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    Mmmmmm, bondo. It takes along time to learn to work with bondo. Seems easy till you try it. I have been around it since I was born (My dads shop). I get sick of the stuff too. Some people dont understand if you want your car perfectly straight, it has to have bondo on it. Period. I like the Rage, its good stuff, I bought a gallon of Bondo brand bondo and it sucked. I actually was about to throw it away, but I just used it as innitial filler, and put nicer stuff over it. Never will I buy it again though. Just my .02 I had to say something, I am Bondoboy after all.
     
  12. Deuce Rails
    Joined: Feb 1, 2002
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    Yep. That's why silos explode surprisingly often. Grain dust is very flammable, and has a lot of oxygen in that airspace.
     
  13. autocol
    Joined: Jul 11, 2002
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    mustard powder factories used to be notorious for spontaneously combusting.
     

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