before you reply,,read it open minded,its much deeper in a ****ed up way ive read some post about how some think that skating has nothing to do with traditional hot rodding ,well,actually,i think it does have alot to do with it,,,see its kinda weird, see if you skated from back the late 70's till the late 80's (hopefully longer!)skating was a special thing (if it wasnt,then you were just a follower),,skating was my life as much as anybody else who skated,,speaking for myself ,"we" were shuned down upon by the high school hiarchy,,{mostly jocks},they tried to kick our ***es ,but for some reason that they didnt expect ,we fought back,lil stought skaters,we might have been smaller and skinnier,but we didnt give a ****,we were doing our own thing.. being a skater,you were doing your own thing,you didnt give a **** about what all the TRENDY people were doing,it didnt matter,,who cared... the only thing important to YOU was where the next skate session was going to be,,in other words,it was all you lived for.we'd skate 10 or 15 miles just to skate a cool grind session.. ..if you were a skater back in then,,then you most likeley rread thrasher mag,,, we were drawing skulls and bones,spider webbs and other **** on our PeeChees in school,growing up listing to DeadKennedys, agent orange,gang green ,suicidal tendeces,black flag,social distortion and all that other **** ,...im speaking for 'US' but forgive me if im incorrect,at least this was what me and the other skate rats i grew up with were doing. anyways,.we got older,,.some were tired of getting kicked out of skate spots, then we found *****,***** was good,,cars were now becoming a factor and why would a generation that was a DIY anti establishment drive a ****in honda...we traded in our 7 ply maple for the coolest hot rod ford or slammed chevy we could build,doing our thing just the same as when the popular jocks ,student body presidents or whoever the **** shunned us down,, ,,nothings changed ,were still the same,doing things OUR WAY.... anti establishment,the way it is.. and when your tired of your red wheels and white walls trend you decide was cool,we'll still be doing it our way,,DIY SKATE OR DIE!
Right on Reynolds!! Remember the Skate Visions video? Had Agent Orange playin' along side a pool. I even had a Vision Agent Orange board. My favorite was my Santa Cruz Jeff Grosso with the doll coming out of the toybox. I skated in the mid '80s to early 90's in Alaska where everyone had either Santa Cruz boards or Powell Peralta. I'm still listening to Suicidal and DK a**** other EXTREMELY Heavy bands. Oh, and yes I do think skating and hotrods share many similarities as you stated. Thanks for bringing back some great memories! Josh
I completely agree with you sickboy err I mean ****. haha sorry couldnt resist. Its the same reason you find alot of old punks into hot rods. Its the DIY at***ude like you said. I skated as well still have a board I ride once in a while don't get many chances anymore. BUt I believe it is the anti-establishemtn that brought the skaters together, brought the punks together and also brings the hot rodders together.
I can,t agree more! I skated and rode BMXers all my life... we were hated by all who did not know the feeling of creating art (skateboarding and BMX are artforms like Hotroding is to me now) and I still have to deal with the same ****ing cops. We were not supposed to skate or ride spots on city or private property and the cops loved to **** with us... and now I cant have loud headers or open wheels... rules ****! We all build our cars to test the rules of the Highway Patrol just like skaters are skating spots and hide from the cops and security ****s. Well, I have been taking my overweight *** to the garage instead of the skatepark since I am now 35. It's all art to me... busting a trick or making a custom part for my car and I get the same rush from both. blake
I agree, but from a different perspective... I BUILT my first skate board out of a cut up roller skate and some plywood and I built my hot rod too! All the other kids had Powells etc, I had the cheapest nastiest decks because they were all I could afford and my parents weren't about to spend alot of money on a nice new deck. I look at my A model roadster as being the POWELL deck I never had when I was a kid.... Adam F
I can't argue..... I had many distractions along the way - like BMX bikes, Moto-X bikes and other forms of physical expression, but they were mostly there because we were getting kicked out of every place we went - just for skating and looking like punks. PPFFTTTT. Now that I am older & my local political representative will listen to me I can help give back to kids what was taken away from us. A skate park was built last year and opened this spring. If I can go off on a tangent here...... It really used to piss me off that "the man" was always in our **** and that everyone was putting up "No Skating" signs everywhere. It got to the point that skating was basically illegal in our town, period. What a crock of ****. And it didn't stop there. Once they had broken up most of the groups that were skating together (in public) and we started getting old enough to "cruise" downtown and at the park - they started making up laws, changing around the one-ways and making "NO LEFT TURNS AFTER 10 O'CLOCK" signs to put a stop to that too!!! It got to the point that all we could do was hang out in each others ba*****ts all weekend and go "driving" (code for drinkin' &/or smokin' and driving). When we weren't packed in a ba*****t tokin' it up we were out in our cars on the loneliest roads we could find. There wasn't anything else to do!!! Seriously. Some of you might disagree with this - and you have a right to, but we were all but banned from being anywhere together in public (at night mostly, but not solely). So we did what came naturally - we would hang out at one another's houses (kind of a rotation) every week. When movies got old we went to video games, when that got old we started find ing nw ways to entertain ourselves...you get the idea. You tell me how much it helped our communities to get us out of the streets..... Now that I'm officially an old man (31) I still have that same "outsider" at***ude. I carry it with me everywhere I go. I am against the grain in everything I do and that includes cars. Honestly I always liked cars but it wasn't until I saw the first coverage of Billetproof that I realized that it could affect me with the same kind of p***ion that I had for skating. sorry to be so long winded......
Began sidewalk surfing in '72. Rode till 1980. Will be riding again. It is fun with wheel's. Anti-establishment? Fine with me. I rode mine to Work! And school. If anyone can do 'boarding for a living, that is great!! It has made an industry worth million's in taxe's every year. Job's from the designing, building and sale's of product. Park's to ride them. Gear,clothing CD's and video's, Tour's. Get out and ride! These guy's today are unreal talent. Figured out? In time....
I see where you are comin from....sorta like the similarities between bowling and fishing...when the fish beat up the bowlers....or was it bowlers beating up fish?...****...I can't remember, but I'm sure you get my meaning.
Skate & punk had no bearing at all on me- I freestyled & listened to metal. Skaters & freestylers were 2 different factions where I grew up. We all got along, but we had problems from time to time, too. But linking skating (or freestyling, or punk or metal for that matter) to hot rodding is just too far a stretch for me. Maybe we need a sister site started- the SAMB. Come be a part of the Skatin' *** Message Board......
if someone wants to pay way too much money for a plank with some paint on it,and it benefits the h.a.m.b. it's OK by me.otherwise STFU.i was building BMXers out of old schwinns with m/c handlebars back around 1972,but this is the only time your gonna hear about it here-george
you know what though... on the CAB comment, i thought that but the hamb has been over run with skaters and BMX **** since almost the get go- weve had posts on this topic or similar year after year. I think what **** says is TRUTH- -the fact that CAB joined is proof. I just think its cool the majority of us got into the same hobby-- Like LUKESTER has my Hot Pink Trickstar... you sold your truck now sell me the TRICKSTAR *****- Tuck
**** Renyolds did we go too the same school. Ditto for my life until responibility came into the picture.
Hmmm, I sure don't see this connection at all, and keep in mind Buzzard and I grew up in the m***ive white urban land of north Texas that produced alot of skaters and punks and so forth...in fact our grad cl*** was the largest in the USA the year we got out. I was around this stuff most of my life. When I was a kid none of the skaters I knew gave a rats *** about cars...in fact when I was in high school auto shop all the guys I knew that were skaters thought it was cool to mess with other peoples stuff and liked to trash things like cars. I rode BMX and was on a team when I was in something like 5th grade to middle school and all those guys got into motocross and never got the car thing. I hear all you guys and see all of you talking about the good old skater days on the HAMB, and thats fine and cool...but I think you are the exceptions and not what the average skater turned out to be like. Just my .02, but I do not remember the skaters of my youth being any different from the ones I deal with as a high school teacher today. I will tell you that I HATE with a p***ion todays skaters. These kids think it is their god given right to thrash and tear stuff up and then boo hoo about how skateboarding is not a crime. I have only had a couple of "sk8ter" students that I did not want to freaking sock in the mouth. They to me are as bad as the "yo yo homeboy" kids I have to listen to on a daily basis. None of the kids today can even use a freaking screw driver...and one or two kids at the school build boards and they are the big shots that have to fix the other kids boards because none of these kids or their pathetic dads even have the tools to work on a board. So I say this with an open mind and I am not trying to say you guys are wrong or **** or anything...I just do not see the connection. Hell, about a year ago all the skater kids at the school I am at worshiped that ***** that was on the internet with the film clip that was pulling the board out from under people and then it got flung out in the street and hit a car. The driver (a girl) and her boyfriend got out of the car and the skater guy was being a even bigger jerk and then beat the boyfriend with his board...and if I remember right he either did or almost did kill the guy. A cl***ic thing I have seen too too many times at the school over the last few years, skater starts **** and then takes a cheap shot with a board across somebodys head. I don't dig that at all...and I sure do not see any of them getting into cars as a hobby anytime soon, I see them just messing with them to cause damage. Several of them get their rocks off messing with the ricer cars in the parking lot. I am not fan of ricer cars, but at least those kids are into cars and I don't think it is too cool to see another kid trash one of those cars out in the parking lot...and gee, in the last six years every single case of damage to cars in the lot or damage to the school has been a result of skater kids. If anything, the skaters seem to be anti-hotrod. **edit add on...Maybe all of you guys on here are like some of the true surfer types I have met that got the "spiritual" part of skating while the majority were the "thrasher" types that misunderstood what "thrashing" ment and thought it ment tearing stuff up because it is "cool."
Yup... it's a sickness. Race Inc 20" > Bill Danforth Alva board > 1964 Fairlane > FLH Harley > T-Roadster > WRX STI > A Sedan... Anything with wheels.
You're trying to get on Cab.'s good side so you can get one of his boards, huh ****? All kidding aside, I understand what you're saying and agree w/ it.
Gerber's baby food leads to hotrodding.... Look up "Hop up" at dictionary.com ... it'll say getting high on opium... Snorting 90wt gear oil leads to hotrodding. And yea, we had the left shoe skate steelwheel trucks nailed to a board for a skateboard... after the right clamp-on's bearings took a **** from taking most of the abuse of racing the other kids on the block around the block. We played rollerderby on cement with no guard rail...
[ QUOTE ] I see where you are comin from....sorta like the similarities between bowling and fishing...when the fish beat up the bowlers....or was it bowlers beating up fish?...****...I can't remember, but I'm sure you get my meaning. [/ QUOTE ] he heh heh heee ;-)
I dunno, some of us who made skateboards put wooden crates on the front with tuna can headlights. Trying to make them look like Cushmans. This was around 1953 or '54. If we rode them even near anyones hot rod or custom we'd at least get a wrench thrown at us. If not an ***kicking. But if you parked your bike or skooter over by the fence and showed that you could keep your mouth shut and your eyes open and not touch anything without being asked to, a kid could just be a fly on the wall at Gil Ayala's shop on Olympic Blvd in East L.A. Those old vatos changed my taste in cars, music, gigglybush, wine and work ethic forever. Just a fly on the wall Couldn't have done that by geing a junoir flip trying to get a rise out of the elders. Might have been where I learned to lurk here a while before registering and then a while before posting. But I reread your post and I still don't see much connection between hot rods and skating but I sure do see one between skating and the HAMB. I see the DIY thing for sure. And the "take chances and go like hell" ethos. But I have friends who know I go on here and they tell me what they want to say here, but I tell them to get hep and get here on their own. They didn't skate except for that skooter thing I mentioned earlier, but they are real old time hot rodders. So, I guess I see the connection of skaters to the HAMB more than to hot rods. Thems my 37¢ worth (2¢ adjusted for inflation)
[ QUOTE ] A cl***ic thing I have seen too too many times at the school over the last few years, skater starts **** and then takes a cheap shot with a board across somebodys head. I don't dig that at all...and I sure do not see any of them getting into cars as a hobby anytime soon, I see them just messing with them to cause damage. Several of them get their rocks off messing with the ricer cars in the parking lot. I am not fan of ricer cars, but at least those kids are into cars and I don't think it is too cool to see another kid trash one of those cars out in the parking lot...and gee, in the last six years every single case of damage to cars in the lot or damage to the school has been a result of skater kids. If anything, the skaters seem to be anti-hotrod. [/ QUOTE ] Merc50, I never did any of those things you talked about and i've skated for over 27 years since i was 12 I never heard of any kids being anti-rod, car, or what ever with four wheels... as soon as kids can drive they want to get a cool car, don't they? those kids you talk about are just spoiled/troubled kids and they picked up skateboarding as a past time these days because it's cool and trendy now, it's on the X-Games and on TV all the time. I never wanted to thrash anything on purpose to piss people off, but skateboarding has been outlawed for many years, so we became the outlaws It's just like driving my coupe fenderless and with the headers un-capped at times, i know i'm not supposed to do that because...it's the against the law but i'm willing to take that chance because that how i want to roll People who have never skated in their lifetime and stuck with it... will never understand it's meaning and what it stands for... so don't even try! what makes it so special is...it's not for everyone. CAB
........I was better at building boards than cars..... "Probe" design by me. 34" Pig nose, square tail. Mainly for carving with a little fancy stuff thrown in..... circa 1976
hey man i know im heeps younger than all you other dudes but i jus wanna tell you guys that not much has changed i skate and so do alot of my friends and we listen to dead kennedy's black flag etc etc
[ QUOTE ] I see where you are comin from....sorta like the similarities between bowling and fishing...when the fish beat up the bowlers....or was it bowlers beating up fish?...****...I can't remember, but I'm sure you get my meaning. [/ QUOTE ] Ha Ha Ha...and who woulda thought we'd ever have ARENA bowling...and FISHING tournaments on TV? Sheeesh! What's NEXT??? Hot rod shows???
My story is about the same **** and the skating and music ties it all together. There are alot of older fellas on this board that would heartily argue as to the validity of these testaments and to those guys i can only say this . Each of us Has a story for ending up here and some of us share these reasons generationaly .But we still have this one thing in common with each other and hot rodding is sometimes the only universal language a****st us. Alot of us weren't there when it started in the late forties or even in the late fifties and cannot ever appreciate it the same way .But the preservation of this notion is the same across all of our generations. I'm sorry for hijacking your thread but sometimes when this topic arises and it is rising more than ever now , I find that there are some that seem isolated from the rest because they cannot relate to this topic .**** , My first hot rod was a 68 charger with a 440 and a cross ram .Not that traditional or even nostalgic by our standards here , but damn ! I bet i had the same lead foot everyone else had though .It pissed alot of people off and in the small town I grew up in , everyone knew when I came home at night. Yah , I got down with the sickness! It never escaped me though and SKATING was what started it .BUZZBOMB!!!! swaZZie
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