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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 36cab, Aug 23, 2012.


  1. You can get more weight transfer from engine setback then you will ever get from ride height. If you got enough torque to hoist the front you are moving weight to the rear, setback makes it easier to hoist the front.

    Gawd don't get me started, I'll have some of you fellas so screwed up you'll never get right again. The key to getting to the big end in a hurry is making is stand up and cut a straight line, it is not as exciting for someone watching but winning is winning. To hell with the spectators.
     
  2. Hey ******, we choose to be drag racers! We're already screwed up! :D
     
  3. I remember in the '70s when my little brother built a '64 Chevelle. All he had to work with was a 283 and he still wanted to win at the local street races. He was the only one in the area that had his engine stuffed back into the firewall and wasn't running it with a street beast stance. He very seldom lost to the big block mud bogger looking car becaue he had something going for him. He nailed it is stood up and went straight, he wasn't wasting any time or effort trying to drive it, and it sounded like a swarm of bees while he was at it.

    The Ol' Man used to say if you can't make it fast on engine you had to make the ch***is fast.
     
  4. Mike Moreau
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    I was at the Nats in Indy when Geo Montgomery won the A Gas supercharged cl*** with his new Mustang with the turbo and low front end, beating all the cl***ic g***es like SWC, AJ Pitman etc. He had the fastest car and deserved the win. It changed everything. Watching g***ers was never the same after that. The excitment was gone for me. Everything always changes. High front ends, low front ends, turbos, car cl***es, everything, change for many and different reasons. Your reaction to change is your personal choice and no one elses.
     
  5. swade41
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    I just find it funny that someone is so concerned about what someone else thinks of "their" car that they will build "their" car to someones else's standards.
    Now of course this is geared towards that topic and not a legitimate question of "when" did it happen.
     
  6. falcongeorge
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    Pretty much right. When wrinkle walls replaced pie crusts. early '66 was when the transition started.
     
  7. falcongeorge
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    KS pittmans car was nose down before OGM built the Mustang.Pittmans '66 car.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. swade41
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    Just flipping through Don Montgomery's book Supercharged Gas Coupes put a little light on the subject.
    A couple cars as early as 66 were rebuilt with lower fronts and chopped tops, the Agitator 1940 Willys p/u and the 33 Red Baron coupe were a couple of the first. Both of those Chuck Finders built by the way, but some early 67 Logghe's were also low. It looks like by 68 there were more "low" cars but plenty of "high" ones still running too.
     

  9. So I shouldn't call and ask you what color to paint my car? Damn it I was depending on you. ;)
     
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  11. Ghost of ElMirage
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    But with their noses high THEY LOOKED SO EFFFIINGGG COOL
     
  12. Larry T
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    That SWC picture was taken before things got radical.

    From 59 (or so) to the early 60's George Montgomerys car was raised 9-10" according to Supercharged Gas Coupes/Don Montgomery.

    Ghost, ask any of the old racers if they wanted to look cool or go fast. Looks had nothing to do with stance for the big guns.
     

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  13. Mike Moreau
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    Falcongeorge: Ya got me. That was a long time ago. I'm lucky I can remember what I had for breakfast. I guess the thing that made the greatest impression on me was that the fastest car was not the "badest". End of an era. Drags were never the same for me after that.
     
  14. Ghost of ElMirage
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    Larry I agree completely! I was just a lil kid when I discovered the "really fast cars with jacked up front ends" My parents would have to hide my hotrod mags so I would do my homework. LOl its cars like this that made a huge impression on a little kid ya know? Makes me feel nostalgic When my dad and brothers were watching the Bruins or the Redsox I was building models :D
     
  15. rustednutz
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    I never liked the g***ers with their *** dragging and the nose sky high. My favorites were like the above SWC Willys that were raised slightly all around. My ex B/G 41 Willys sat like that when I bought it in 71 but don't have a clue who originally built and raced it.
     
  16. Larry T
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    Now that's funny. Same here, I had subscriptions to Hot Rod, Car Craft, and Popular Hot Rodding when I was a youngster in the early 60's. My mother created a monster when she said "I don't care what they read, as long as they read." She probably would have amended that statement later on in my *******/Easyrider phase, but I still have all the early mags (even the Easyriders), *******s seem to have disappeared.

    Back to g***er heights. :D
     
  17. Ghost of ElMirage
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    I have been trying to piece together a model A RPU with a flattie for years now (tuff when you got kids in college) but anyway my wife thinx I should put the nose sky high. BTW yeah my parents at least knew i wasnt getting into TOO much trouble I was always under the hood messing with cars or something
     
  18. blownhemi48
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    You guys are all over the place on this subject. If you go back into Don Montgomery's book ... you'll see on pages 30,31,39,44 and 47 that there were some low g***ers back in the '61,'62 era. Now if you want to race with a certain group whose cars reflect a specific cl*** and era, you should adhere to their rules and make your look like it belongs in that era , or compete ( or show ) with a different group whose rules or era are more to your liking.
     
  19. What he said..........................
     
  20. swade41
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    I would have to tell ya ******, corn cob yeller with a **** brown stripe......don't ask were I got that idea
     
  21. Sounds like a weener to me. Ooops guess that fella was hitting for the other team. :D
     
  22. Ghost of ElMirage
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    Actually its just a ******** session we're havin....besides I'm not ever trying to copy a specific era, I kinda just want a cool old hotrod with whatever parts I happen to like ya know?:D
     
  23. Stevie Nash
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    Let me know if you need any help Steve!
     
  24. Well you aren't allowed to play then. We can't have anyone have a single thought of thier own. :rolleyes:
     
  25. Ha Ha Ha!!!

    I think I've experienced this somewhere "local" before. :p
     
  26. Ghost of ElMirage
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    lol like my first marriage :p
     
  27. Deuces
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    They never did......;)
     

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  28. I have a 54 Chevy I would trade ya!? Always wanted a chopped Austin!
     
  29. falcongeorge
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    When I was very young (like two) my mom noticed that I was very interested in my dads Car Lifes, especially the ones that had drag car stuff in them. So she had this bright idea that she could use this to teach me to read and an early age, started reading the Car Life back issues to me. It worked, by the age of four and a half, I had skipped right past **** and Jane, and was able to read car magazines. Seriously. She thought this was so cool, and was always bragging to her friends about her child protege. My grade 1 teacher was AMAZED to discover that I was reading at a grade four level when I started in her cl***. Thier amazement quickly wore off when they realized that every time a musclecar or hot rod drove by, I jumped out of my seat and ran to the cl***room window. Seriously. My mother has told me hundreds of times since that using car magazines to teach me to read is one of her biggest regrets. Seriously. None of this story is exaggerated. Ask my mom.:D

    Just thought I should mention, this all happened concurrent with the rise and fall of g***er ride hieghts. Gotta tie this in so its all "on topic".:rolleyes:
     
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