some metal spray pics of my 54 belair

Here is a few before and after pics of some metal spray repairs im doing to my 54 belair sports coupe this car was pretty rusty . Ive replaced the rear part of the quarter panel the part over the wheelwells the trunk part underneath where the trunk closes the front part of the rockers and repaired the rocker panels now im getting started on the roof .

 

Metal spray ? Please show us how it works. Feder

 

here is some more pics as well . The eventual goal is Im putting in a new chassis tubbing the rearend and Im putting on 20x15 boyds smoothie IIs in the rear and front will be 18x7 with the new mickey thompson Hr radials 29x15sx20 and 18x7s front with a 502 bbc with around 625 hp and still up in the air on the trans but more than likely a tko 600 . I hope to have it done or close in around 16 months I have most of the parts for the chassis already as this is what i do for a living . I'm not a body man though so just trying to get it somewhat close I picked up a metal spray machine for a good deal so im using that . I was thinking of a bitchin firewall but will prob make my own floor and trunk pans etc.. . this car like i said was very rusty and would never have been a candiate for anything other than a new frame etc.. .every bloody screw in the mouldings was rusted and i tell you a good hss steel drill bit wont touch it so i had to die grind every screw off took two days to remove the chrome and the rear windows but its coming along now .

 

Looks like a good place to build from.
Who does your metal spray?
Not sure if there is a place anywhere me that does it.

 

ive heard of that process and wondered whether or not it really worked..looks like it works pretty well,,,is it hard to get the hang of it??

 

Dandimand..did you read what this site is about? "traditional"
your setting your self up for a serious lesson on this board when you brought in the "Boyd" and all those crazy wheel sizes

the metal spray thing is interesting more on that might be nice but im going to go get my popcorn and beer , sit back and watch this one.

 

Sorry... I posted as you posted so I missed that you bought a machine yourself.
Tell us more about the sprayer please...

 

im new to this forum so Im sorry I didnt know that was just showing some pics of what i was doing I did the metal spray myself just to show the repairs . I have good equipment as I build race cars for a living but wanted my own personal hot rod and found this car in Everett washington pretty much everything is rusted on the car if i could find some good doors if anyone knows of any would save me the time on repairing mine . once again like i Said Im new to this forum and do apologise I didnt realize that it wasnt a custom forum .the machine is a cp400r miller and yes it took some training by a very nice fellow whom helped me learn the metal spray process and quite a cash outlay by myself for the equipment . Im a tool junkie and like that kinda stuff so I bought the required stuff I coulda bought a car in much better shape but i wanted a challenge and wanted to learn as that is what hot rodding is all about IMO from my early days of having no money to do this stuff to now where i can afford it but still like to do the hard stuff myself . I posted on here a while ago on how to remove trunk springs but got no response if anyone can help me with that would appreciate it very much . as for how the metal spray works very well Im not the only guy doing it there are several others that restore old cars that do it as well I can say its very dangerous fume wise and you need a large compressor to keep up to the machines demands .

 

Don't listen to that guy, most here will want to hear more about this metal spray process rather than bust your chops. Was the equipment expensive? what is the process exactly?

 

Dandimand, you's got some 'splainin' to do. Tell us how does the metal spray works and we'll let you off the hook for the other stuff. Is this the process advertised in Hemming's?

 

the metal spray deal sounds really cool..I was just giving you a heads up..it can sometimes get pretty ugly on here, maybe with the interest on this process they may give you a bit of slack..tell us more how is it done and what is its cost?

 

easy injector tim ..I was just letting him know what he could be in for i wasnt busting his chops..it was a friendly heads up..

 

well you need the safety gear so approx 1000.00 for that around 20 k for the machine a 20hp screw compressor 7 k sand blasting equipement helmet training by some one who knows a dedicated spray area with fans etc.. so i guess a minimum around 50 k i guess . as for how it works very well I wont say the type of wire Im spraying as that is between myself and the fellow that trained me but i think ford and gm use the same wire instead of lead in the newer cars Ill leave it at that . Its tricky to work with if you dont know what your doing hence getting trained by someone who knows and for all intensive purposes why im self training myself on my own car as well .

 

I have seen the equipment at the SEMA show...Not sure of pricing for the equipment... It is pretty interesting. Looked for a website for info but couldn't find anything.... It looks like sandblasting when doing it but the metal actually builds up instead of blasting away.... They say you can file, sand, grind, weld etc after the process.. Can be done on steel, aluminum, etc... Jason

 

That is a diff. method than what I had seen.....Jason.

 

thats cool as hell...sounds like you could bring back a number of cars that normally would be concitered scrap..dam cool.
Wonder if there are any shops in the north east starting in on this?

 

i seen a guy at monroe swap meet couple years ago with a demo looks pretty cool and$$$$

 

there are many processes of it its called twin wire arc spray tafa makes a machine that does this . it works very well and honestly I didnt know anything about it myself til about 6 months ago til the fellow i bought the car from told me about it . I took the summer off from building race cars to research everything i could about it and acquired the equipment know how and training and have gone from there
yes you can spray aluminum body panels as well I have aluminum but havent tried spraying with it yet . you can repair pot metal spray stainless resurface bearing shafts and many other uses etc.. spray copper on bumpers for rechroming etc..

 

Yup. Big bucks and lotsa secrets... wire, process used.. flame (combustion), arc or plasma, lotsa 'lectricity used too (20kw and up for most that I've heard of).
Not something most of us would "find" in our shops.

 

If its the same guy he is the one i got training from .

 

so no suggestions on how to remove my trunk springs ??? I would like to post a link to my website but dont want to if its not allowed let me know if i can thanks .

 

whats the bonding process? electrical charge kinda like welding? or is it polymer based?

 

ok so the fumes are produced buy the "welding" type process

 

is he still doing it it was couple years ago havent seen him since

 

Cool! Hey, would you mind coming over to my place tomorrow and spraying my entire 40 chevy coupe? Well, not the windows unless you also have a glass-sprayer.
I love tech-y stuff.

 

well if its the same guy as I know of a few in washington that do it but yes he still does it and quite well very smart guy . I may eventually start a small sideline business doing this but that wont be til sometime in the spring when im fully confident in my own repairs . one of the reasons I bought this car is because I figured any repairs I may do in the future I would run across it on this car and trust me this one was very bad .

 

OK, the trunk gutter you show in your very first pic?? How much time would be involved to fix that? How much finish work after welding?

 

well that trunk part and the underneath part with sand blasting etc.. prob took me around 5 hours total Im getting better at it so i think in the future the times will start dropping . the guy that trained me charged 300 per hour for this type of work .

 

So the actual process is spraying,and melting a "mig like" wire onto the piece? Can you give out the process without letting too many secrets out? This is fascinating.

 

There is a place right rown the street from me that does this its fairly cool. looks like galvanised steel when your done.