Some people should be shot--a F.L. Wright bites the dust.

Not to argue, but if you built a brand new house from his plans, it wouldn't convey the same feeling?

I suppose it's like an original rod with Henry tin compared to a 'gl*** one.

-slacker

 

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Not to argue, but if you built a brand new house from his plans, it wouldn't convey the same feeling?

I suppose it's like an original rod with Henry tin compared to a 'gl*** one.

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More like a Henry vs a Brookville...
Wait a minute, Henry didn't turn any wrenches (on production cars) either!

Art historians will usually hod the original design, as drawn by the architect, to be the "Art" of the piece above the actual building.

 

Point taken.

-slacker

 

F.L. actually did have a hand in building some homes. Not pounding nails but being on location with ideas. Then he would send the people little things like a vase or something saying how it would look nice in a certain spot, and bill them later for $500. He was a real cantankerous sort and didn't let people use their own ideas when he built them a home. If a woman wanted an extra linen cupboard he would throw a fit and insist it only be done his way.

 

Its funny there is such an uproar over an old house being torn down.

The fact of the matter is I'm a professional home designer and I sell a large number of home plans. The funny thing is, there is no saying how the house will turn out. I just draw them and anyone and there mother are my clients.

I have seasoned builders I deal with regularly and then i get punks who think that they are the greatest builder to walk the face of the earth. Sure I respect Wright but the fact of the matter is it was a broke down old house. And there is no saying who was the general contractor on the job.

I'd say that 90% of us know when to walk away from solid piece of rust in some old farmers swamp. Same thing for a house.

I once cut the top off a 64 1/2 mustang to make a hard top convertable. So maybe I'm not the best to make a judgement call.

All I know is it wasn't my house, my money, or my call.

 

TOYGUY, ain't no sin to cut up a Mustang, they're worthless to begin with.

 

TOYGUY, design an introduction.

 

Sorry about the lack of intro.

I'm just a guy from wyoming that followed a girl and ended up in Utah. I've always built ford mostly mustangs but did a hand full of pick-ups and a couple of jeeps.

I went from driving fast and blowin **** up to quietly building projects out of my garage in the burbs. (which the neighbors hate with a p***ion)

I know a bunch of guys that post here (the Throttlers) and i'm planning to build an old school like theirs before to long.

 

I'm disgusted. I have always loved Frank Lloyd Wright's work. WAAAY ahead of his time. I can't believe that house was built in 1916. It looks like it was from the late '60s or veen the 1970s. What a shame.

 

yep its a ***** stuff like that happens, but i have one better years ago the powers to be in St louis decided to tear down the "Arena or what was then called the CheckerDome"

this building was the ONLY ONE of its kind in the US. yes it was in a state of dispair BUT there was a few companies that wanted to save it(it could of been saved too) & even had $$$$ on hand. but the mayor & his buddies said NO! ! ! !, they'd rather have some modern gl*** & steel building there..
http://www.missouri66.org/images/photoalbum/historic8.jpg
another one was the Coral Court Motel http://www.missouri66.org/images/photoalbum/historic14.jpg this was on RT.66 in st louis, once again powers to be wanted a damn walmart or walgreens or someother company that would give a HUGEE tax break to.
what a shame that these *****s just dont get it, WE the people who are thier bosses very seldom if ever get a say on what historial building should stay. hell at the same time the were tearing down these to building they were save lots of plain old red brick building in down town to turn into apartments. make lots of sense, tear down buildings that have HISTORY in them & save the damn warehouses that has no historical background other then being an old warehouse..such is progress...joe

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&& i will disagree w/this statement, NOT all of us streetrodders think that(yes i am 1 of THEM guys), matter of fact lots of us think just the opposite. i love looking at your rides & even envy some of you because of your skills & how could ya not like your rides, some are odd, wierd & even bizarre but thats what makes this hobby so damn great

 

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Hell yes I would... Hell yes I did... and the next one I find, I'll do it to that one too...
It's mine, and I'll do with it what I please.

 

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Hell yes I would... Hell yes I did... and the next one I find, I'll do it to that one too...
It's mine, and I'll do with it what I please.



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just to be clear about things i never said thats, but alchemy did. because i agree, if its mine i'll do any damn thing to it i want...joe

 

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Just like the owner of that house did. What are you all *****ing about? The worst type of people in this world are hypocrites. If you can cut up something done by my favorite artist (Henry Ford) why can't somebody else cut up something by Wright?

- alchemy

 

This **** really torques me off.

I live in the same town as Friedman House, the very last building that FL Wright ever designed (he died while it was under construction), and it took a giant outcry to save it from a developers wrecking ball. It's still for sale, if anybody's interested:

http://www.pbs.org/wttw/handymaamtv/handyProject405.htm

On a happier note, people are starting to wake up to the importance of preserving early- and mid-century stuff. In California, there are big groups devoted to preserving Eichler homes and Googie architecture. Around here, a nearby town is going to restore a bridge designed by Wright, one of the few he bridges he ever built...

http://www.glencoevillage.org/GHASflw.html

Also, the wife and I just joined a group called Chicago Bauhaus & Beyond that supports preservation of modern architecture around the area. They throw *****in' parties, too. Anybody who's interested should check them out...

http://www.chicagobauhausbeyond.org/

 

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I don't care if it was Frank Lloyd Wright or Frank Robinson, the feeling of walking into an old house is the same feeling you get when you drive an old car.

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Okay, so you guys are saying cutting up an old ford (how many MILLIONS of t's and a's were built?) is the same as destroying a Wright house, which there is only one of each? I think we all would agree that a one of a kind ford prototype shouldn't be messed with. It just seems to me that there is a lot of vacant places to build your dream house, or a lot of generic, ugly houses to tear down. By the way, I live a few blocks from a Lustrum metal home that was just sold by the original owner. I'm watching and hoping they don't tear out any of the metal interior.

 

It's the bucks people, soul don't count for ****.
How long before Yankee Stadium becomes a picture in a book?
I can sit in that stadium and close my eyes and see Mickey Mantle & Roger Maris, Lou Gherig and the Babe...

Others sit in the same spot and see the lack of skyboxes, mega priced suites and expensive restaurants in the outfield and a roof to close it in for winter events and concerts they could be making money on...

I'm not the guy with the bucks to make it go my way. That's just the way it is.

Look at the bright side. You guys might spot a cool deuce in the new Walmart parking lot someday.

 

James and Smokin Joe... Thats exactly how I feel.

 

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Just like the owner of that house did. What are you all *****ing about? The worst type of people in this world are hypocrites. If you can cut up something done by my favorite artist (Henry Ford) why can't somebody else cut up something by Wright?

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i aint *****in about anything really, just thinks its sad they tore down history & when only ONE of each is made. as for your favorite artist Henry Ford, well he made millions of them cars/trucks & others are still making some of them in metal along w/fibergl***. so there's basicly an endless supply of those & there is no comparing the 2 ..joe

and thanks james thats how i feel too

 

What we should all celebrate is the fact that this stuff gets us all fired up, be it car tin or vintage houses! What I see is a growing backlashh for the McDonaldization of our country.

Folks like us, and the numbers are growing, are harking back to the things that once were.

My p***ion for houses is as strong as mine for cars or bikes or firearms. Older is better, there is SOUL in that old junk.

We curently live in a 1926 house, it is small, the mobile home of the 20s. It is built with dimension 2X6 rafters, thats real lumber kids! I would take the first offer for my place that came around to level it(I own on the main drag)but I would stipulate that I could salvage at least the Oak flooring and the framing.

The argument here however is the complete disregard of work like FLW, folks that are national treasures. Good or bad, that house needed to be saved or at least the essence of it incorporated into the new house, not build a typical DryvitMcmansion!

What am I getting at? You can rebuild a ****ty no-name hotrod into your own vision. But, if the car had pedigree, I feel you should at least honour the builders wishes.

It all comes down to Kharma.

 

I can easly relate to this problem .. Schooled Exsperts ain`t worth **** .. If you have the p***ion , then you probably know WAY more than the Exsperts ! As Alchemy , I am restoring one of the oldest houses remaining in my home-town , And all of the exsperts ( 1400-1900 Houses ) said that it was nut worth restoring ... I did nut care 1 bit. I bought the House , and even if it has taken me more than 14 years of work, and still not finished , I could not care less what those self-aclaimed exsperts says . I went on a tour to see what kinda houses THEY lived in , AND ,No surprise .. I was not impressed !! They where like most tire-kickers at a Rod-meet. Sorry-*** people who knows all the theory , but have NO idea what end of an Nail goes in first ..
I have not heard of the arcitect of the house you posted , but I guess that most people who grew up in that area would LOVE to see it back in shape . The place where I grew up is still lookin`the same as it did when I was a Kid . Means a lot to me!! And all the elderly people who grew up in the part of town where my present house is located , Well , They are trilled that the house will stay !! IF most Norwegians , Swedes ( Skåne not included ) or Americans have had a vote , then the Eifel-tower would have been torn down and replaced by a MALL ... The `34 5W "Hot-Rod" coupe that got me into this "hobby" back in `73 was still intact in `85. Me & one guy fought about buying it , And I lost ( Other guy knew the owner , and made a deal .. ) .. The car was totaly "killed" , and a BIG part of Norwegian "Hot-Rod" history was lost ! ......

 

BTW ,, I forgot .. If I had not bought that house , It would have been torn down & replaced by a ESSO fuel-station !!!

 

Here in my town they've gotten alot better about saving old buildings. They just moved a huge 3 story house (had to cut it into 4 peices) about 3 miles and are turning it into a little museum about the area. A guy I know sold his property to a bank to build a new branch on, and they moved his house, remodeled it, and he still walked away with some cash. (it was a late 20's bungalow). Prices in my neighborhood (20's -40's homes) has tripled in 6 years and they say it may go up 35% this year. What used to be run down area is now one of the most sought out, people want simpler lifes and homes with character, not styrofoam mouldings and plastic faux wood. Maybe it's not like this up there.