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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ned Ludd, Jul 27, 2012.

  1. Ned Ludd
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    Typo: 1894. That is, I was born on his 69th birthday; he wasn't born on my 21st!
     
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  3. Rickybop
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    I love it.
    There's a liberating quality about specials/speedsters
    Opens up a world of possibilities.

    Hmmmmmmm...
     
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    ^^^^. Love that #7. Needs riding mechanic seat.. my winter project
     
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  6. roadsterlines
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    Arthur Wylie Javelin Special: this is a special 'Special'. The car still exists.

    First photo from Rob Roy Hill Climb; second from Altona [Melbourne, Oz]; third from Fisherman's Bend [Melbourne], March 1954, showing Arthur Wylie and Jack Brabham; last photo (by F. H. Hince) is one from Rob Roy that I posted previously when I knew nothing about the car or driver: it's Wylie in his Ford A special. (all photos from State Library of Victoria)

    To read all about it: https://primotipo.com/2018/09/14/the-wylies-javelin-special/ pi020071.jpg pi020099.jpg pi001093.jpg pi001222.jpg
     
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  7. Rickybop
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    .....early generation driving "suit"!

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  9. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    $125 When you could buy an entire T for under $400.
    So in today's dollars, a kit car body for an $80K car would run another $25K
     
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  10. Rickybop
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    $125 in 1916 = $3,600 today.
     
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  12. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Thanks for the correction @Rickybop. I was just pulling rough numbers PFTA to illustrate a buckOtwenty-five was not trivial back then. I would fab a similar body for somebody today for $3600.
    Would you buy one at that price?
     
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  13. Rickybop
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    $3,600 wouldn't be too bad I guess, considering the price of a roadster body. I don't see that anybody's making them right now. But being cheap and hopefully somewhat handy, I'd probably try to put one together myself.
     
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    from Missouri

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  17. timberwolf01
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    1930 Alvis Silver Eagle special
     

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  18. timberwolf01
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    1934 Wolseley Hornet special 30-183-Unknown-Wolseley-Hornet-Special-30-183-ed-ws.jpg img_7834.jpg
     
  19. Ned Ludd
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    Not to be confused with the factory Wolseley Hornet Special, which was a kind of BMW Z3 for the hairdressers of the '30s.
     
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  20. SR100
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    I believe that that definition implies construction by an individual or a shop, not a factory. Why would it matter to a factory that the materials should be cheap? In addition, I've read a lot of old British magazines and I don't recall any of them ever calling a factory Austin a "special." MotorSport, in particular, always referred to this car as a "100 mph Austin," even eight years after the record run.
    If you were going by the definition in post #1, you shouldn't have posted about the Monaco-Trossi. Its cool, and I've always been fascinated by it, but a scratch-built grand prix car with a front-wheel-drive drivetrain certainly isn't a special by any reasonable definition.
    Just because its period and its cool doesn't mean its on-topic.
     
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  21. roadsterlines
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    'Ken Wylie, Austin A40 S/C, Rob Roy, 1949' - State Library of Victoria pi020078.jpg
     
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  22. Ned Ludd
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    Posted on FB today by PreWarCar:
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    In the comments, Mike Gosbell posted this:
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    "It was an interesting concept fitting two motors in those early race cars. In South Australia Eldred Norman fitted two flathead V8s together to create a very special race car. I'm not sure where the photo attached was taken."

    I'd like to know more about those very unusual wheels.
     
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    It looks like it was based on a 1924/25 Citroën B10 or a 1921/1923 B2 to me, it seems too long to be a C2/C3.
    The B2/B10 had 1/4 eliptical springs and a 2.8m wheelbase, 1.4L 4cyl side valve engine and was capable of 70 kph. The B2 and B10 share the same ch***is and engine.
    From the B12 on it was parallel leaf springs so they should show on the picture.
     
  25. roadsterlines
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    Rob Roy Hill Climb 19 Nov. 2023 - Ford Special 048.JPG 105.JPG 106.JPG
     
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  27. AmishMike
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    I do NOT get anything & am not ***ociated in any way with that book. Posted the ad for special lovers to check it out & make own decision. $80 bucks little high for me. Amazon reviews all good. Maybe I can hint to family for a gift or Ca for used copy in a year
     
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  28. Ned Ludd
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    Ludvigsen lends some credibility. Perhaps there will be a softcover edition?
     
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  29. This is from a ****s manual I got with some other stuff once, early 1920’s publication date as I remember. Gives one cause to ponder… 63FB98B6-588E-4EEA-BFA2-829FE020ADA4.jpeg
     
  30. SR100
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    "Each chapter frames the birth and evolution of a company that produced a speedster model in its lineup." Cool, but not does not cover specials.
     
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