Hot Rods Speedway Cloned STROMBERG 97 Thread

So while I was at the Hot Rod Industry Show in Indy this weekend, I was overjoyed to see the NEW Stromberg 97's from Speedway. After talking with Dave from Speedway about them and what they would retail for ($299.99), Django and I were talking about them. And, how cool it was that someone finally got the ball rolling on supplying new 97's. I guess Speedy Bill got tired of waiting on England to supply them, and gave the order to make them. I suggested how we should hook up our fellow HAMB members. And we both agreed on that.

They are top quality, and while more than likely made off shore (so are the ones from England by the way.) They are also, reportedly, interchangeable parts with original Strombergs. Extended length throttle shafts are standard on all of them, and the throttle bodies are made from ALUMINUM, solving the fuel boiling issues. All are also primary carbs, so use in multi-carb applications will vary depending on cam and cubic inches.

We made the decision to offer them to HAMB ALLIANCE MEMEBERS at a lower than retail price, and after speaking Ryan and getting the green light to post the offer on the main board here we are.

The offer is good from the 18th of MARCH through the 27th of APRIL, and those coming to Garage Days at the shop are encouraged just to pick up your order at the shop.

Order should be via PM sent to ME. In your PM include the following:

1. Name (real one is nice).

2. Address where your order should be sent.

3. Telephone number and when to contact you. We will call you with a total. At the time of the call we'll need you to pay with a credit card. NO PAYPAL (sorry fellas).

The carbs are available as follows:

1-3 Carbs $275.00 ea.

4-6 Carbs $270.00 ea.

The carbs are natural finish with plated linkages and brackets. All have a choke.

I'll post a photograph of the carbs as soon as I get it uploaded.

 

Chinese?

 

I don't know where they are made. I know the ones from England aren't from England either. They are also "a sourced part." For all anyone knows, the ones from Speedway and the ones from England are made in the same plant in "another part of the world."

 

Awesome.

 

Not that it matters to me (I haven't even picked up my engine yet ) but are these "in stock" or ordered and shipped? Cheap as a Holley 4 barrel, that rocks!

JK

 

I have 100 of them IN STOCK with my name on them. All I have to do is place the order and they'll ship the next day to me. I made a deal with them so I wouldn't have to order them right away and have them sitting here in the shop until I got all the orders in from HAMBers. I'm also hoping that a bunch of guys will just want to pick them up at Garage Days, and save all the packing and shipping for anyone who might be coming this way.

I can order them in batches out of that 100 also, so guys that order now, won't have to wait until the end of April to get them. I also have an option (if I think I need it) to reserve more.

Who loves you guys?

 

Here's the photograph they sent me. Box look familiar?

 

Box looks real familiar......did`nt Clive buy the name and rights to make Strombergs?

 

Don't know. Come to think of it, I didn't see "Stromberg" stamped/written/cast into the side of these. I have heard a rumor that one of the guys from England brought all his stuff over to Speedy Bill. Just rumor though, so I don't know. That's the photograph they sent me though, and the carb in the photograph is the one I saw in Indy this past weekend.

 

too cool Im in no hurry I havent got my flatty yet

 

bttt

 

Who cares if they are china...if there is a problem Speedway will take care of it. They are brand new dammmmmit!!! I now can finally afford 6.

 

Ok.... I need one primary and two secondaries. How do I sign up?

send info to me if you can....

gene235@msn.com

 

I had one of these apart last week. If your 100 carbs are anything like the one I looked at, don't expect them to run, out of the box.

 

Read the first post, it says what to do.

 

Please explain...

 

Jeez they even copied the box is nowt sacred ?????

 

Agreed

 

Copied, or same plant is what I'm wondering.

 

Chris Froggett the brilliant English artist designed the original boxes for Stromberg 97 company along with the art cartoon etc .

 

Do a search using "speedy" for last week's thread.

 

Max , I read that , very interesting , I'm still using the Stromberg 97's straight out of the box with no problems .

 

The speedy thread is interesting. I'd like to get one from Speedway and see it for myself. I'll call them today and get one and take photographs as I dis***emble it and post them here. I believe you about finding parts ***emble wrong. But, that being said, I've gotten Edelbrock carbs and had problems like that. 1000 carbs coming off the ***embly line in a day means 1% could have a problem.

Now, if I get one, and the problems are the same as the ones you guys found, that's a major issue. But if not, that means you got a bum one. That's a QC problem, and before I go selling a bunch of these to you guys I want to know if they are junk or worth buying.

Overseas vs. U.S.? Well, find something on almost any hot rod or custom that ISN'T made in some overseas country. Many good points, for and against, were made in the Speedy thread. I buy as much as I can to use on our cars that is U.S.A. made. But some things you just can't get around, and we all just deal with it (like those nylon bushing in your shackles). I'd also like to hear from a non-97 carb rebuilder about whether these are junk or not (no offense meant Uncle Max / Stromberg97 / Fox Valley Matt / etc.) I think everyone would like that. Hearing from me that someone else's header flanges are junk doesn't say a whole lot more [to someone that doesn't know me] than I sell header flanges and am worried about sales. You guys all have the knowledge and experience to really give them the once over though, and there's the rub. What independent source, who knows enough about older style carbs, can be [perceived by those that don't personally know you] unbiased, and whom we would all trust to say "yea or neah", could fit that bill?

Also, I'd like to point out that I was unaware of the other "Speedy" thread when I made the deal and talked with Ryan. Or any of the possible problems with these carbs. I want all of you to know I'm going to try to get to the bottom of this with these units. And if they turn out junk, I'll not sell one of them to any of you (or anyone else for that matter). I'm not looking to just make a buck and F you guys. And I think you all know that about me and my shop.

 

Much appreciate you being a stand up guy -- now we just need to get to the bottom of this and really know the quality of these products. We know the quality from Clive is spot on . . . but they are having production problems. Compe***ion is usually a good thing - if all things are equal (which they usually are not!).

Keep us posted . .

 

I think if he's up to it, I'll take the carb up to my engine builder. Ted at Opel Engineering. He's one of the most trusted engine builders in this part of the country, and has been for almost 40 years. Plus he's done a TON of V12 Lincolns and V8 Fords with Strombergs. Now, he didn't build the carbs, but he does know the ins and outs of them enough to dyno-tune a flathead with one on it. I'll call him up when I get to work and see what he thinks about taking a look at them.

Now, there are those who will still think, "well, that's HIS engine builder." But I encourage those who don't know me to believe that Ted isn't going to tell me anything other than the truth about what he finds. That's the kind of guy he is.

I'd also like to know where I can get (as mentioned in the Speedy thread) re-built 97's for $300 a pop. The eight 48's that we had built for Helen Wheels were WAY more than that (and yes, I know 48's aren't 97's. I can see a bit more, but how much is reasonable if it's true that you can get 97's for $300?)??????

 

Hey Guys order me up a few and I'll try it out. I'll let you know in a week if they are good or not. I'll drive it daily in all conditions wet ,traffic and speeding too. At 500 clams for the new one it's nuts and Speedy China Bills s'79 sound like a copy of the 97's. So what the hell am I going to do with my 40 original 97's
I got or had a customer (mister A)that had sent his Dies to china to stamp out his door hinges. We lost the spring biz when he move his plant to china for production. Well he (mister A)visited the plant one day and the china plant was stamping hinges for other guys with his name of (mister A) in no name bags. Plant manager said if he didn't like it take it up with the owner to remove his stuff. I'm sure this is the samething going on with the s'79,97's

 

Wow, thats good news! Hopefully the Speedway 97's work out. Thats a huge boost to the hobby.

 

I'll take you up on that John. I sent them an email this morning asking them to send me three (so we could compare three separate units). "They" know about this thread, the "Speedy" thread, and the potential promise or harm HAMB opinion could have on the sales. Hopefully I'll get a promising email back today.

 

OK......Enough talk would someone shoot ther lock off there wallet and test these things i'm getting bored of all this back and forth suff i want to here real world data.....

 

i think its bang out of order that speedway have ripped off stromberg, I wouldnt touch them with a barge pole. I would rather save the extra and buy them from stromberg.