i have spindle mount wheels for anglia spindles. do anglia spindles work on ford I beam axles? or do i have to have a set of early ford spindles machined down to anglia size?
Machine The Spindles....seems Like Its Been Done A Lot....once You See A Anglia Spindle You Relize .....how Small They Are.......haha Brandon
so i guess my next question is does anyone know where i can get a schematic, (a measured drawring as norm abrahms would say), of a anglia spindle to give the machinist to work off of?
You have the wheels machined to accept Ford sized bearings. They didn't use two different wheel blanks they just machined the hubs for different bearings.
the hub measured front to back on these wheels is about 1.125 narrower than a ford hub. also the races are narrower, a ford bearing overlaps the race. i always thought anglia spindles were smaller than ford.
I WANT TO SAY ...THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WHEELS......SEEMS LIKE THE OLD FORD STUFF IS WIDER IN THE HUB AREA.....ON THE 12 SPOKE STUFF.....ALSO....THERE ARE A COUPLE VARIATIONS OF THE 12 SPOKE WHEEL....DEPENDING ON THE AGE .....TERRY VAUGHN IS ON HERE OCC***IONALLY .....I KNOW HE HAS TO KNOW.....BRANDON
THEY ARE SMALLER.......LIKE A 3/4 SCALE VERSION ....IMAGINE A 48 ANGLIA ....AND A 35 FORD......VERY CLOSE TO BEING THE SAME....ONLY ON A SMALLER SCALE.....BRANDON
Even if you could remachine the wheels - I wouldn't risk it. The ford spindles were commonly remachined to the anglia size (I might have a set - they're remachined but can't remember what for) - I could take dimenions off them for you BUT!!! I don't know if they're RIGHT - If it were me I would take the dimensions off an origional anglia spindle (or better take the actual anglia spindle with you) to the machinist and let him measure them up himself. It'd be a darn shame if YOUR mics and his had a .005" discrepency!!!! In any event if you remachine the spindle and things go wrong you have only lost a spindle - if things go wrong while mahining a wheel - well that's a far greater loss in my book. YMMV
They are the same damned hub. At least Americans were the same hub, they were just machined different. Cheaper than tooling up twice to cast the same part.
What porkn****** says is probably true regarding Slots or Kidney beans or Altered style(3" or 3 1/2wide) 12 spokes and I would be tempted to accept that they were all machined from the same casting as he says. However,I have a set of Dragster style 12 spoke Americans (Freight Train wheels 2 1/4" wide) for Anglia spindles and I can ***ure you that the hub is no where near wide enough(inside to outside) to accept a Ford spindle unless there are some serious spacers and or seal adaptors involved or unless you have a bearing cap about bazzilion inches deep.Those early Ford spindles are long as a *****s dream. lol I have been kicking around modifying a Ford axle to accept the Anglia spindles for an altered project of mine,but I really don't think the Anglia spindles have enough substance to be used on a street beater,(especially if you intend to drive it alot), without serious unexpected(failure) consequences. Machining your wheels if possible to fit Ford spindles if possible is a much better solution. What style of wheels are they anyhow( slots-kidneys,or spokes)? If in light of this info you still want to machine spindles or something weird like that,post it and I'll get you some dimensions either later tonight or tomorrow as time permits off of some Anglia spindles I have. T.OUT
Silent Rick has some splindle mounts that look like torque thrusts. We were comparing them against a set of 18 inch magnesium American 12 spokes. There was a good 3/4" difference in width between the two wheels.
Hey Rick, Here are the dimensions of an anglia spindle taken directly from the spindle . Overal length is 3.950 or 4" if you will spindles are in overall length a little like horseshoes and handgrenades.
thanks, that length will work with these hubs, not so sure about the diameter since i don't have bearings yet. do you have a part number for inner and outer bearings. i do believe it would probably be better to take an anglia spindle with me and let the machinist measure it, as hemirambler suggested. unless he can go off the inside diameter of the bearing. porkn******, thanks for all your replys, my wheels appear to be american torq thrusts. the hubs are just too narrow to work on a ford spindle. thanks again to everybody.
Do you have an Anglia spindle? I have the bearings and races in my 12 spokes but there are no gaurantees they are the same as your torque Thrusts. If you will give me the inside diameter of the inner and outer bearing holes I'l see how close they are to mine and if they are the same I'll pull the bearings and races to see what the #'s are. What are you going to do with these wheels street or race duty? T.OUT
it's been awhile since i posted this. i finally got around to knocking out the bearing races to get the numbers. inner race is timken 07204 outer race is timken 05185 i have an email into american and i'll call strange and some local speed shops monday to verify the application. so far i ruled out early ford, strange and chevy spindles. i have to believe they are anglia. what other spindles were in use in the 60's? i'll post my findings.
Rick: Any luck with the spindles. Have a set also, but magnesium. it only see logical to machine a ford spindal down. Any help appreciated.
i ended up selling the wheels. i still have the brand new timken bearings i bought for the wheels and somewhere i have the dimensions of an anglia spindle. i was going to have my ford spindles turned down. my wheels were definitely anglia only
Here's are rough dimensions of Anglia spindles. I believe you can get spindle stubs from the Ch***is Shop, but I didn't double check. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98091
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