Ok, who did the post of making whitewalls using Krylon Fusion plastic paint? I tried it yesterday...sanded it all nice and smooth, taped off a 2 1/4 whitewall, cleaned it with lacquer thinner, and put a few light coats of fusion on. Looked great, until I flexed the sidewall, and it cracked all to hell, even flaking off (pictures coming later...). Did I do something wrong, or was this just a fantasy that I could have whitewalls this cheap? yeah, I know, I could grind skinny ones out, but the ones I tried looked like*****, wavy, eneven lines. Maybe it's just me... Why the hell don't customs look good WITHOUT wide whites? I've tried the skinny ones, it just ain't the same...kinda like wearing an extra thick condom, or something... I've tried Cokers, they lasted 4000 miles. Pulling off a set of Diamondbacks that are egg shaped...do none of these manufacturers expect us to actually drive on their tires? I mean, really drive them, like 700 miles a day in 100 degree weather? Sorry for the rant, just a little pissed... I guess I could try a set of bias...but the majority say they***** for handling...it's the only thing I haven't tried! Brian
It was Fat**** Whitewalls. Here's the post: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=277791&fpart=1&PHPSESSID=
I have seen HIGGs whites and he just redid the F100 tires, he used Kyrlon Flat white, the look good and he left the old leetering and all and its a work truck that get parked in the dirt
Questions: Cause I intend on trying this sometime too. Was the tire mounted on a rim? What did you do to flex the sidewall? Here's the post. another whitewall tech
The guys did mine a few weekends ago... they're starting to crack too....they were thinking maybe they weren't sanded/ground down enough.... just for the record...they're round around the edges, the resolution of the picture is making them look choppy.
Sorry Cherry, But yuk. That late model pickup with those modifications remind me of the PT cruiser posers. Just teasing now so don't get upset.
[ QUOTE ] The guys did mine a few weekends ago... they're starting to crack too....they were thinking maybe they weren't sanded/ground down enough.... [/ QUOTE ] they were white letter tires we ground down to side whites. you couls still sorta see the letters, like the black under them was coming through, so we used the Fusion paint and it stuck GREAT to the white part and pretty good to the 1/2" of black between the whitewall and the rim. on two of them it is flaking in that little 1/2" area that was still black. i thnk it just was'nt sanded very well. i would try NOT using any chemical to clean the tire before you paint it. we just blew it off with the air hose and wiped it with a shop rag. we used 36 grit on an air sander and then 60grit on a DA to smooth it out some. you can still see some rough scratches but it looks good from 6 feet and the tires need replaced anyway so i wasn't gonns mess with it too much. it was just for experimentation purposes.
WOW! glad I seen this post. Does anyone in the DFW area have this method down? I have a truck I would like to get some WW on. They would be for my bro that is coming in from Japan this coming Monday.....
[ QUOTE ] Sorry Cherry, But yuk. That late model pickup with those modifications remind me of the PT cruiser posers. Just teasing now so don't get upset. [/ QUOTE ] It's ok, to each their own.
Funny how time changes everything,,,,,,,,,When I was in my teens and tires were expensive(like they ain't now!)we might have had 4 recaps and one was wide white,,,,,,, FLAT BLACK spray paint worked! HRP
Well, thought I would get some pics...but the camera is dead. Tires were smoothed and painted off the rim, the cracking came from just picking them up by the bead. I had planned on mounting them myself, as I usually do, but that would have made the cracking even worse. I guess if you painted them on the rim it would eliminate that, but I'm sure they would be subjected to more flex on the road than I put on them. Ok, here's a thought. How about acrylic enamel, with flex agent and flattener? Probably wouldn't work either. Anybody got any portawalls? (Yeah, I've tried them too, good for about 1500 miles, then they fly apart). Brian
How old are your Diamondbacks? I've personally had 4 sets on 4 different cars with nothing but good things to say. Plus theres 5 guys i hang with that are running them with no troubles. just curious.. I put coker bias on my Roadster with no troubles, but know several local guys who've had major problems with coker radials. Hmmm....
About two or three years old, probably 15k miles on them. I guess I shouldn't lay the blame on them totally. I found out what the root of my whole damn problem was (or is), a bent rear axle. Now it's not bent a lot, but you can see a definite wobble to the flange. I think the out of round wear could have been caused by this. The diamondbacks I'm running are the Daytons with the new whitewall bonded on...I did have a bad experience with one set of their tires though. For a while they were selling "remanufactured" wide whites...recaps. After I had two of them come apart I called them up and demanded my money back...they credited what I had spent on them toward the set I'm running now. And don't even get me started on Cokers... Brian
Brian, I did the post. The tires I did in the post are still on my daily driver S10. Put the tires on the rims, paint them, then air them up. Mine have been through a nasty Missouri winter, salt and all, and get driven on my gravel driveway everyday. They show some wear, but still look good. I'll respray them one of these days. The first set I did are close two five years old, and still look good. They're on a VW Bug that I drove daily until the move to Missouri. Here's what the front tire on the S10 looks like now. Dean
"I guess I could try a set of bias....but they***** for handling." So, Brian.....you're trying to paint radials, eh? I had the same problem with a set of wide whites that were bleeding the black rubber from underneath. I painted them with real-live whitewall tire paint [sent to me by Draglinks] and they looked absolutely stunning! It took 3 coats to cover and after letting it dry overnight, I headed up the interstate for BTT50's...Stopped after about 20 miles for a pit stop to find the paint had turned to cottage cheese! That's how I learned radial tires and whitewall paint do not mix... By the time I arrived in Minnesota, almost all the paint had found a new home in my wheelwells and the tires were brown again...
Fat**** Whitewalls... have you ever had the paint turn brown? My friend did the same thing we're talking about just a few days ago, and they already kinda flaked and changed color... ever have that issue?
I was gonna post about this last week....but lookin for work has taken top priority... I got a set of radials cheap from a guy where I USED to work, thought I would try the painting the whitewalls trick... without being mounted on the rim, I took them into the dungeon and ground down all but the small lettering around the inside of the tire, smoothed them down and DA'd the whole part to be painted with 80 grit.... masked off 1.5 inches from the tread, and went to town with the satin white fusion.... they looked******in' sittin in the living room... I went and had them mounted on the front wheels, they cracked like all git out...BUT, this is acceptable for me, I wanted them to look old and such...they look just like I pulled them off a 40 year old wreck... my question was gonna be this: If they are painted ON the rim INFLATED, would they crack and flake off? It would seem that if one were to paint them mounted, and then inflate them before the paint dries, it would work MUCH better....if someone really wanted a new whitewall look....
we left the tires on the rim and inflated when we ground and painted them. the only two that flaked where the two that did'nt get smoothed as well up close to the rim. it is still sticking to the white part perfectly and its been several weeks of daily driving, plus we live on a dirt road.
Ok, I'm going to let you in on a secret. Years ago we used to do white walls with White shoe dye. The ladies change the colors on their shoes with it. About three coats is right, and it lasts for months. It's good for bringing back yellowed whitewalls too.
[ QUOTE ] I guess I could try a set of bias...but the majority say they***** for handling...it's the only thing I haven't tried! Brian [/ QUOTE ] I've had good luck with my BF Goodrich wide white radials. They have lasted much longer than the Cokers which I first tried. The only problem with the BG Goodrich is they were only available in 70 series, a little too wide for 50's cars. I called Coker (they were advertising the BF Goodrich) a few months ago because a new BG Goodrich 75 series is finally available. The 75 series has the tall skinny profile we like. They said call back summer time to see if the new 75's are available.
[ QUOTE ] Fat**** Whitewalls... have you ever had the paint turn brown? My friend did the same thing we're talking about just a few days ago, and they already kinda flaked and changed color... ever have that issue? [/ QUOTE ] I haven't had them turn brown. None of mine have flaked off. I will continue to do my own tires in this way. I've done old tires, and brand new ones. My gravel driveway is hard on the outer edge, but it's not flaking off. It looks more like it is wearing a little. Only my fronts are doing this, the backs have more black rubber on the outside edge and don't touch the gravel. I did my tires off the rims, and didn't have any problems mounting them. I mount my tires by hand though. I've freshened up a set by deflating them, and then airing them up after I painted them. Dean
I painted mine on before Paso....they are turning a little brown and the one that ended up getting parked too close to some ivy is flaking off some...but they looked good for the show and saved me a bundle! Oh yea...fuck cokers! I've had 2 ww radials seperate and a buddy had one bust a steel belt on the way to paso....it was like brand new and they offered to exchange it...pro-rated of course. What a deal! Their*****py tires fall apart and cause you 2-3 hours on the side of the road trying to get the problem fixed and they want to pro-rate a brand new*****ing tire!!
If anybody is looking for a tire that'll give you a nice wide white, I just started grinding a Dunlop Rover AT (205/70/15) and the edge is nice and smooth, and they are about 3" wide.
Hey Brian... BF Goodrich SilverTowns from Coker... There's no substitute for Bias... IMHO. I've run 3 sets for many miles without trouble...BTW, are you commin' to KKOA Lancaster? We have your reservation at Chez Appleman!!!
Here's the progression, I did one Sat. little too much black between the rim and the WW, but I'm going to try the Fusion paint on it once I have it mounted.
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