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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Donuts & Peelouts, Sep 4, 2017.

  1. Flathead Dave
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    No. It was his stupidity of his showing off ability.
     
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  2. southcross2631
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    I have mufflers for my stand. I was showing the stand not my exhaust system.
     
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  3. Jim, You run it at night, with all the lights off, right? Coool!
     
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  4. bobbytnm
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    I take it you're going to start that big Caddy?

    Those big Caddys were made with a big high iron content so they are pretty durable. They can take a lot of abuse. The pics I saw of you engine in the other thread looked pretty clean. I'd clean it up and paint it, maybe change the timing chain because its easy when its out of the car.
    You can make a decent engine stand from some 2x6 lumber that fits on either side of the oil pan to support the block.

    Here's my old Packard firing in my garage on a makeshift stand made from some lumber and wheel dolly (click on the picture)
    [​IMG]
     
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  5. Donuts & Peelouts
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    Bobby, thanks Bud. Yes I'm gonna try to start this beast. Most likely on a a tire tied down I'm ghetto like that. Lol , so Glad when chevy57dude said 'it'l run on dirt".

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  6. Mr48chev
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    Jim already answered it but an engine doesn't need an alternator or generator to run.
    Most of the Central Texas dirt track racers who ran at Heart-O-Texas speedway in the 70's didn't have any kind of charging system on the car.
    Fully charged battery at the start of the night and as they only had to start it and operate the Ignition the batteries normally made it though the whole night running a heat or two and the main without problems.
     
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  7. ClayMart
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    Not only is this guy fun to watch, but he's surprisingly methodical in his approach to testing out an "unknown" engine. He doesn't just throw money at it until he knows what he's actually working with. He makes a lot more sense than the average Utube clown.



    There's several videos
    in this particular series and they're all worth watching, especially when the engine comes to life.
     
  8. Donuts & Peelouts
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    Thanks so much Clay. I'll be subscribing to him, I appreciate that because it saves me time sifting through the "clowns" as you say.

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  9. Donuts & Peelouts
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    Mr48chevy that's cool info to know . As far as a compression test AFTER you run it for a while. WHY??? what's the theory behind checking compression on a warm engine apposed to a cold one?

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  10. Donuts & Peelouts
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    I feel like the Hamb has helped me so much, I owe people in so many different states beers

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  11. You could do it before and after if you want, but if it's been sitting for a while, you'll want to run it and get oil up in the cylinders and between the rings and get some of that carbon out of the way first.
    First thing, you want to look at the plugs before you do anything. If they're uniformly beige or brown, even with some build up, you should be good to go. If one is black, it could be just a plug or wire problem. If it's black and wet with oil, pay close attention to that cylinder on the compression test.
     
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  12. ClayMart
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    Make it easy on yourself... :p

     
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  13. Donuts & Peelouts
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    Now that's a fax machine!..But wow man that man's videos you shared with me are putting me on a higher level of understanding. I'm stuck on his channel. Thanks Man.

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  14. BigDogSS
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    Be aware --> the youtube guy with the Pontiac does not actually start the engine until episode 4, and only with starter fluid and no carb.
     
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  15. Donuts & Peelouts
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  16. henryj1951
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    Sweet* that's how i built mine(s****) have build MANY they never come out quite the same ...lol
     
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  17. Mr48chev
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    Mark Yak pretty well nailed it on running the compression test after running the engine for a few minutes.
    It helps get things unstuck a bit and may give a more honest compression reading. That Cad 500 had sat in the ambulance for several years without being driven. Got driven around the block a couple of times before my buddy pulled it and then sat under a tarp in his yard for at least a year before he got tired of looking at it and gave it to me.
     
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  18. You should see this thing go when he puts the propeller on it..............

     
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  19. Donuts & Peelouts
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    Hey guys the other day I bought a engine and transmission for 35 bucks.. it was a Toyota but I plan to use it as a core in the junkyard, anyways when I got home I had no idea where to put it because I only have one engine stand and already have an engine on it. So I remembered something from this thread, the shopping cart. I came home the next day with a metal shopping cart and put the engine straight in there it was perfect. Well I ended up selling the engine and transmission for 120 bucks.

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  20. indyjps
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    You can get real basic with a fat tire, gas can, battery.

    Ive made a few of these, for basically zero money, used radiator out of whatever, make sure hoses are on correct sides, cheapy guage panel from junkyard. Angle iron from wherever. Doesnt have to be pretty.

    I was rebuilding a lot of sbc's at the time and was breaking in cams, so I needed run time. Used a running engine to set it up the first time and trouble shoot the stand.
     
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