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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by SGTKinzer, Apr 19, 2009.

  1. SGTKinzer
    Joined: Jan 18, 2009
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    I got this sander for my birthday to use for restoring my '37 Olds. It is a Black and Decker 5" orbital sander. After using it for a while the band that keeps the sander portion of this tool moving at a regular, safe pace broke. After the band broke the sander started moving faster then it is supposed to, and it sparks began to fly while I was using it. I don't really feel as though the product is safe to use any more, so I am tossing it. If, only after a few days a product like this breaks, then it is not a quality product and I would not reccomend it for anyone wanting to sand. Just an FYI.
     

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  2. hotrod-Linkin
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    electric...no good...air.....friend....
     
  3. Levis Classic
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    I'd at least take it back for a refund.
     
  4. Von Rigg Fink
    Joined: Jun 11, 2007
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    as HRL said..electric no go on tools like that..
    but if i were you dont deep 6 it ..Id send it back to B&D,..get a replacement, and use it on wood..or ask for a refund.
     
  5. jonathan
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    A tool like that is for the novice do-it-yourself home repair goon. Expected use is about a couple hours a year. Not really made for automobile repair/reconditioning.

    Invest in a decent air compressor and an affordable DA sander. Your first couple minutes of use and you'll be glad you did.
     
  6. 1950ChevySuburban
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    I got a nice B&D drill for my birthday a couple years back. It died fast, Home D warranteed it. It also died fast. Home D again stepped up and I got cash back.

    Box was clearly labeled Made in China
     
  7. SGTKinzer
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  8. carcrazyjohn
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    Black and decker is horrible anymore. At one time they made good tools.Im begining to expect that home depot is selling defective stuff. I bought a chainsaw a couple of weeks ago,Used it to cut a stump lower .Chain popped off while running. Installed chain again proceeded to trim hedges chain popped off again.Should of looked at design. instead of the old fasioned 2 bolts and tensioner.This thing had a plastic adjustment wheel and a plastic tension pin .All for 130.00 .Good brand also.Home lite I took it back,They gave me a refund.So in short Take that Black and Decker peice of sh-t back.. Only in america' we are making too many cutbacks.Quality control is gone. The chain tension was fine when it popped off;I could of got severely hurt. Im suprized you didnt get electricuted. I feel sad for the next generation and im only 40
     
  9. Homelite is no longer a good brand. They are one of the many casterated icons of American industrial society. You can bet some folks made a bunch of moola turning them to trash, though. Its a new American tradition!!:D
     
  10. 49ratfink
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    I still got my Black and Decker drill I bought in 1978. they used to make stuff that lasts. guess those days are long gone.
     
  11. lostforawhile
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    every time they make something good they stop making it right away,and revert to junk.example, the VPX 14 volt drill, really nice drill, lightweight, powerful, i've been beating the crap out of one, and it never breaks, it's a dual battery lithium, well Home Depot and Lowes dropped the ball, in six months it was off the shelf, the replacement is a POS orange one where the battery doesn't even come out, you have to put the entire drill in the charger, I think what happened is people didn't want to pay the high price for the quality drill, and it bombed due to this. Now they have gone back to a cheap drill, before the VPX came out, it was that firecrap drill, i have an entire box of dead ones from work. cheap junk that sold,to quality stuff that didn't,to cheap junk that sells.
     
  12. SGTKinzer
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    I'm not even sure what the good brands are anymore. I like DeWalt but it just seems like more often than not these tools are mostly disposable, which I think is a real tragedy.
     
  13. Fu-Manchu
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    No offense, but why don't you get an air compressor and use a DA like normal people...
     
  14. lostforawhile
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    Dewalt and Black and decker are the same thing, I won't buy another dewalt, expensive drill and the batteries took a crap right away, this was before they had the lifetime warranties on the batteries. it's been sitting in my closet for years, useless junk. There are still good brands made but they are expensive, but you get what you pay for. I'm eventually looking at a Millawalkee when i get back on my feet, they seem to be pretty high quality.
     
  15. SGTKinzer
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    It was a present. I just haven't made any major tool purchases so far because I am a renter and am using a garage that I don't own while working on the Olds. As soon as the bid is accepted on the home I am going to buy I will make more serious tool purchases. I did see a 26 gallon air compressor that us made by Husky Tools that I have been thinking about buying. Does anyone have any thoughts about Husky?
     
  16. lostforawhile
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    I know on one hand tool set i have, it says made in USA,the other says made in China, you can see the difference in the quality.
     
  17. Mike51Merc
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    I bought a B&D hammer drill and while drilling the first hole the variable speed trigger melted inside. On the other hand, I have B&D products that still run perfectly after 50 years of use.

    Bottom line, they don't make 'em like they used to.
     
  18. duste01
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    For anyone who doesn't know, this forum has a sibling forum called garage journal that handles of all things...Tools. Just ask Ryan....

    http://www.garagejournal.com/
     
  19. lostforawhile
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    check for recalls, there were a bunch of them recalled,it could be worse those green kawasaki drills that were selling cheap, a bunch of those had batteries explode while in use. big recall on those fire hazzard.
     
  20. uc4me
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    If you are going to be doing any amount of body work I would recommend getting the biggest compressor and tank you can afford. Stay away from oilless compressors if you don't want a lot of racket in the shop

    I have an old V4 reciprocating Brunner compressor on top of an 80 gallon tank. You couldn't pay me to replace it with anything from Lowes or Home Depot
     
  21. The only similarity between the Black & Decker of years ago and today's B&D is the name. Most B&D stuff is made in China, and the quality is not the same. I still use a 35 year old B&D 3/8" drill that I wouldn't trade even for a dozen new B&D drills.
     
  22. harley man
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    Those box stores sell cheap junk made for them.They see a product they want to sell then they tell the manufacture they will buy 50000 of them if you can make it for X price.CHEAP.I seen a compressor at one of the stores for a good price was going to buy it.Checked at NAPA store they had the same one $200 more.WTF Not so looked the same way better cast iron V vs aluminum V body etc way cheaper to make.Get the picture.Box store dosent carry that compressor any more NAPA still dose.Buy cheap get cheap.
     
  23. carcrazyjohn
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    Getting back on track. Buy a good and extremely big aircompressor and da sander.To save money .I bought a cole man from sam's club 500.00 and a ch dualaction sander under 40.00 Look at c.f.m ratings
     
  24. Unkl Ian
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    The welders in the big box stores have Aluminum windings on the transformers,
    the "same" model at a real welding supplier will have Copper windings.

    Black and Decker is now cheapo "consumer grade" crap,
    anything anywhere near decent, will have a different brand on it.
     
  25. Unkl Ian
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    Take the orange fire starter back, and get a Porter Cable.
     
  26. roddinron
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    Black and Decker=junk.
     
  27. lostforawhile
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    I guess I lucked out on this vpx, says made in China, it was marked down from a hundred bucks to 30 dollars.so far it's holding up really well, when it breaks i'll still only have 30 bucks in it. they must have specified higher quality crap in this one then the standard crap,there is a big difference. the new crap from them is cheap looking. :)
     
  28. .manny
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    like others have said get the biggest compressor that you can possibly afford .... that 26 gallon will never keep up with a DA or various other tools, and you'll just be wishing you bought a bigger one
     
  29. Hot Rod Bob
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    You have to have the right tool for the job!
     
  30. SGTKinzer
    Joined: Jan 18, 2009
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    Do I really need to go as big as a 80 gallon air compressor? That seems like a little bit of overkill for a part time guy like myself. Milwaukee Tools, are they good?
     

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