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Technical Steering box

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by willymakeit, Nov 1, 2013.

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  1. willymakeit
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    I have seen a Ford steering box in a past thread or somewhere that the pitman arm was at 12 o clock.
    This is for a side steer project I'm working on.
    The box I have off a 53 F100 is at 6 o clock and to my knowledge be changed.
    Any ideas?
     
  2. squirrel
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    get a chevy box, you can move them every 90 degrees
     
  3. Mr48chev
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    You would have to reverse the worm gear in the box to do it. If you just put the pitman arm to the top the car will steer backwards.

    In other words you modify the box so that the steering shaft comes out the opposite end. Then you obviously rotate the box on the frame so that the pitman arm is at 12 O'clock rather than 6 O'clock but I don't know if the box in question can be modified in that manner.

    The T bucket guys have modified/reversed Corvair boxes to work the other way for years under the same basic concept.
     
  4. willymakeit
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    If you mount the box under the frame you can use a 37-48 box rotated 90* or a Mustang . Both will then have the pitman arm at 12.
     
  6. Rickybop
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    The box you saw was likely from a Mustang. They have the pitman arm pointing up.
     
  7. Kevin Lee
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    Ding! Or you could also use a '37-'48 passenger car box and weld a flange at the same position as an F1 box. (if that's how you were planning to mount it)
     
  8. willymakeit
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    I don't have clearance plus I'm trying to keep the drag link parallel.
    This is on a Q.E. suspension. My goal is not to cut the drag link but use as many bolted( factory) pieces .
    I can weld sheet metal and frames or bracketry but will leave welding steering components to some one who knows what they are doing.
    It's a semi trad. Build with left over parts and I get to see what I'm capable of.
     
  9. willymakeit
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    I will look at all the suggestions. I really appreciate the input.
     
  10. Mart
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    As you have not shown any pics of what you are doing it is difficult to visualise the setup. Having the pitman arm sticking up can lead to bump steer issues if the end is too high. This is normally made better by mounting the box under the rail. a box mounted through the rail with the pitman arm sticking up will probably bump steer.

    If you are using radius arms, the end of the pitman arm is normally best at a similar height to the radius arm, having it higher but parallel is probably not a great setup.

    Mart.
     
  11. willymakeit
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    i will try to post some pics when I pull it back in.
    Basically aF100 axle that I built q.e. Mounts for. But to get it low enough I stepped the frame in front 4".
    Was going to do cowl steering but it would interfere with side vents and ect.
    I don't want to get flamed but it is a Mack cab and grille from 1949. Had fenders (rear) left from a 37 Ford p/u. and motorcycle type fenders in front. Full hood and chopped top soon. The cab is similar to a 34 Ford p/u cab and the grill reminds me of a 32. This most definitely is not a r.r.
    I have everything tack welded and setup. Sort of a fun build without a lot of constraints .
     
  12. falcongeorge
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    Correct, '37/'48 car box laid on its side, it was done a lot in the fifties. You need to be aware of inherent bump steer issues with this set-up.

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  13. willymakeit
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    If there is issues with bump steer. What would be a good setup?
    I have a F 100 box but it sits high when I line the pitman arm up.
    I will post some pics next week.( it's high time I learned how anyway)
     
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