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Technical stewart warner auburn style gauges

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by silent rick, Oct 22, 2013.

  1. silent rick
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    i have collected a complete set of early stewart warner crescent moon pointer, curved gl*** gauges. all but one of them are the cup style. one is the back mount auburn style gauge. i'd like a matching set. is it possible to remove the innards of the auburn gauge and transplant it into a cup style mount? has anyone done it?
     
  2. Ryan
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    Yes. I have.

    Go to ebay... Buy a reproduction front mount 2 5/8 bezel. Remove the rear mount bezel from your gauge and replace with the new front mount. Done.
     
  3. silent rick
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    do the two mounting ears come off with the bezel? how is the gauge secured to the dash panel? there's no studs on the back for L-shaped mounting clips. that's why i was asking if everything had to be switched over to a cup. i guess i can put a hose clamp around the auburn style gauge to hold it tight against the dash.
     
  4. Corn Fed
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    My brother has done it. Get a used modern step bezel 2-5/8" S/W (like all the stock car racers use) from e-bay or your next swap meet. They still use the same bucket as the original 40's curved gl*** version. Peel off the stepped ring and pull out all the guts. Your older guts should fit right in. If all goes well, that repro bezel you buy off e-bay fits nicely. If not, you may need to remove a tiny amount of metal from the inside of the bucket (if too tight) or use your favorite bonding agent (JB weld or other) to help tighten it up.
     
  5. Carter
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    The ears are usually a part of the br*** case. I sent you a pm on possibly just swapping for the gauge you need.

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  6. Ryan
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    All I did was cut the ears off... I then drilled two holes in the back of the cup to use as mounting studs for the U-bracket. The gauge is now in my model-a. If I get a chance, I'll take it out and post pics.
     
  7. Ryan
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    I should mention I did this to an oil pressure gauge... Obviously, this wouldn't work with a water temp gauge as you'd have to cut/ruin the tube. At the point, it becomes more cost efficient (if you can even say that when mentioning these old gauges) to get a new/old gauge.
     
  8. alchemy
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    The guts from the old oil pressure, oil temp, and water temps will fit directly into the modern (1960's on up) 2-5/8" buckets. Some of the amp gauges will go right into the new amp buckets, but some need the holes on the backside filed a little to line up. Same with the fuel gauges.

    A benefit of using the modern 2-5/8" bucket is the light chimney, so you can have a light in the gauge instead of relying on an outside-the-bucket light source.

    I've never used any of the repro press-in rings, so I can't vouch for their fit. I have the modern buckets chucked in a lathe to take a little sliver of metal out of the inside edge so the original rings press in easily. I use a little dab of form-a-gasket to seal them in rather than a hard press fit. When I've had a ring rechromed it is usually thicker, as the new chrome is thicker than the original chrome was.

    There. Now you all know my secrets.
     
  9. Ryan
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    Awesome. That's the difference between a hack like me and someone with a reasonable melon between their ears. I like your way better.
     
  10. silent rick
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    thanks for all the replies
     
  11. HellsHotRods
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    If the bezel is really tight, (and you don't want to screw it up by bending it) I find that about half of these old gauges , I end up using a propane torch and slowly heating up the gauge bucket, that it will expand enough to free up the bezel without causing any damage.

    I've collected 3 complete sets (gas, oil, water, water, amp, vacuum) of six.
     

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