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Stick Mig or Tig for frame?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by SpazTaztic, Sep 6, 2009.

  1. russnunn
    Joined: May 13, 2009
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    from Florida

    Spaz,
    I have been a welder for almost 20 years and these guys are right on with the info they are giving you. If you do decide to go with stick the 6011 is the way to go and you can get that at the local hardware store. just make sure you do not get 7018 or 6013. reason being is 6013 is a flat weld rod no vert, no over head and 7018 needs to be kept in a rod oven or used up right away it collects moisture and can be a pain in the ***. But if you do go with mig that will work fine to. good luck to you.
     
  2. HotRodBen1987
    Joined: Jul 29, 2009
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    A 220v mig with amperage up and .030 or .035 wire should work fine. And since you already have one and are used to welding with it then go for it. Good luck
     
  3. CoolHand
    Joined: Aug 31, 2007
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    There has long been a saying, "It's not the welder, it's the weldor."

    Meaning, that the process doesn't so much matter, as the man that's wielding it.

    T'was many a hotrod ch***is fused together with a torch or a buzz box.

    Use whichever process you're best with, and make good use of it.
     
  4. 39 All Ford
    Joined: Sep 15, 2008
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    from Benton AR

    Stick Mig or Tig for frame?

    I did not read any answers at all, but I say YES,,,,

    Any one of the three will work just GREAT!! :D
     
  5. A few things to consider, STICK welding is used to this day at Nuclear Power Plants, submarines, aircaraft carriers, etc, etc, as far as MIG, my friend who is a Fabricator for Hendrix Motorsports, yes thee Hendrix Motorsprts, called a while back, they were replacing all of the MILLER welders with new MILLER welders in the ch***is shop, were there is literally a MILLER every 5 feet station to station, "ALL MIG".... -3500 pound NASCAR RACE cars just a tad under 200 MPH, you decide. TIG, beautiful welds and strong- done properly. "All" welding processes are acceptable for suspension and frame structural work, PROVIDED there is enough power in and power out of the equipment used for the process. My frames I build with 220 MIG, Hobart IronMan 210, and my cars run up and down the Interstates and do see track time at local drag strips. Yes, they are ALL acceptable, GOOD-LUCK
     
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  6. Well, all of them except the ones that were riveted.:cool:

    Looks like you have it figured out man. If you are good with MIG and have a 220V (Which you do) you are good to go.
     
  7. fordcragar
    Joined: Dec 28, 2005
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    from Yakima WA.

    I've seen some very pretty MIG welds that didn't hold; even from the factory. If I want it to stick, I'll either TIG or weld it with 6011 or 6013.
     
  8. Kenneth S
    Joined: Dec 15, 2007
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    I've seen some pretty arc, and tig welds that didn't hold, either. I haven't used an arc welder in years (in fact I sold my arc welder), spaz I suggest that you get a regulator, a bottle of gas, and some solid core wire, and do some practicing, once you try the mig with gas you'll never use flux core again.
     
  9. CoolHand
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    Once again, that is not the welder's fault, that is the weldor's fault.

    Fools use TIG and Stick machines too man, can't judge the equipment by what a fool does with it.
     
  10. bangngears
    Joined: Aug 30, 2007
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    from ofallon mo

    jeez,we can beat this to death forever.it all boils down to how good a welder you are. A good welder does not care what kind of machine he is using.What ever is available, use it.Now let me clarify,no you do not use a stick on body panels.I think we are talking frame building,in which case any of the three mentioned are perfectly suited to do the job.Many a stick welder can run a beautiful bead that is better than a lot of mig welders can do.My rant is over,its talent and experience that makes the differance.
     
  11. Larry T
    Joined: Nov 24, 2004
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    Nothing against Spaztastic, but wouldn't a good weldor already know how he's gonna weld it? And if you don't know, shouldn't you discuss it at a welding shop or a metal working site instead of here? We've got answers that are all over the place.
    Larry T
     
  12. theHIGHLANDER
    Joined: Jun 3, 2005
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    Well you're a cl*** ****in act! Great answer! Bravo! I'm not being sarcastic.

    As far a the 'best' way...I too say any of em but lean toward a mig weld. A good clean mig with adequate amps is as strong as it gets. I've seen some true artistry with stick welds in my day. Like also replied above, that's all they had. There's tens of thousands of bracket racers that have thousands of rounds on em and many of em are mig welded. Do the process you're best at and get a good night's sleep.
     
  13. edweird
    Joined: Jan 4, 2009
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    This welding is done with a miller 135. 79 nova subframe to 53 stude ch***is. It ain't gonna break!
     

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