Hey its my Favorite Texan!..glad to be back, Bro..im itchin to get back on that build..2 weeks with out working on it seemed like a life time..it was like being locked in pergatory..we had a blast and good times, great family and wonderful reunion, but so good to be back home
I just read the thread you referred to. I don't know if anyone else has said this, but he plowed into a parked 18 wheeler you douche bag! Of course it broke. It doesn't matter if he didn't mention the name of the company. At least he provided some actual facts & pictures. Please do us all a favor, and do as you promised. Don't come back.
Damn after reading this thread I came to the realization that I will never get those twenty odd minutes of my life back.What a douche!!
Some witty replies posted here but this one is is the closest to the HAMB many of us know and love. Truth hurts and you speak it man.
LOW mileage car, Magnum 5" cast axle. Right front king pin boss broke on a smooth road. Luckily the resulting crash "only" caused a broken leg. The car is completely trashed. The front end parts came from Speedway. More pics here: http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm108/marklh/
could it have been from the chroming process? hydrogen embrittlement? possibly? was it purchased from S/W than chromed? or came that way right from Speedy Bills?
In all my years of fooling with old cars I have never seen a factory Ford front axle broken. Oh, I've seen many of them bent and twisted and kinked and knocked whoppy-jawed and tweaked and turned but never broken. Neither have I seen the same on any Chevrolet or Dodge/Plymouth etc. or other make non-tubular axle. On the other hand I have seen broken fabricated tubular axles and even the original SuperBells from the 70s. And I've seen many of them twisted and tweaked and bent and bowed without breaking too. But when it comes to new production aftermarket hotrod axles made in the style of early Ford I-beams the water is very murky. Occassional pictures on the internet, rumors and stories, second and third hand observations, but no real hard pictoral evidence until the last month or two on this forum. This is an important issue as it involves potential deaths due to accidents caused by part failure. It should be investigated, verified and announced to the rodding community with all details available. The vendor should come forward and explain the problem and take care of it. This isn't kiddie games we do here, highway and raceway safety and lives are on the line if these products are not diligently cahecked and rechecked for quality and service life. That said, I would never use an axle that wasn't forged like Henry's and preferably one made from 1928-1948 by Henry's. Of course a later Henry's pickup axle would be OK too!
I may or may not have (CENSORED) your (CENSORED) last night. If I did, I am so sorry man, I didn't know it was your (CENSORED) or I would never have (CENSORED) it with my (CENSORED). I'll be more than happy to pay any medical expenses related to (CENSORED) the (CENSORED). ------------------------------------------------------ "Dear OP, Fuck off. Love, Electrodude" EDIT: I give this thread "two stars" because no cars were widened in it.
anybody know the story behind Lonnie Gilbertsons (portland,Oregon) VW custom with a speedway axle set-up under it that broke and sent him off the road totaling the car????.........
meatball, those are the pics that Unkl Ian referred to: http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm108/marklh/
That break in the axle reminds me of a whetstone. No sir, I won't trust anything that looks that brittle whence broken. What Von Rigg Fink said makes me think, I've seen other chromed cast suspension parts break and look the same. Is it just the toll the chroming process takes on cast pieces or has anyone seen a non-chromed piece break?
After seeing those pictures I can honestly say, if I ever run another aftermarket I beam, it will be forged, not cast!
I've read talk about there being "good" cast beams and "bad" cast beams, but in my opinion, why mess with it? Go forged or go home. Life's too short to roll the dice over a few bucks. Besides, Model A axles are still easy to find, have dropped, and never have to worry about the quality of the metal... http://chestofbooks.com/crafts/mechanics/Mechanical-Processes/209-Drop-Forging-Dies-Making-A-Drop-Forging.html
Thank you... You first... LMAO.... You couldn't hack shit... don't fool yourself. yep owww.... me neither, and there's more.. ain't it grand and there ya go, something real, and naming names... That was good...
anyone know if the chroming was done after purchase..or was it done by the MFG? chroming can be done..and the hydrogen issue delt with, but it has to be done by qualified people who know WTF they are doing when it comes to suspension parts or parts under these types of stresses. if the chroming was done buy some F-ing bumper shop..than sorry to say but you got what you paid for.. Hydrogen Embrittlement is caused by the Hydrogen evolved during electroysis being, to some extent, absorbed into the crystal structure of the steel at its' surface. Normally baking at 200 deg. C will remove the atomic Hydrogen before it has had chance to migrate and become molecular. Documented tests carried out by the Spring Research Institute in the UK have suggested that if baking is carried out within 24 hrs. of plating the Hydrogen can be removed. However it appears that many specifications request that the treatment be carried out within a much tighter timescale. I have heard evidence that suggests that this may, in some cases, be due to the desirability to ensure that the operation is carried out and not forgotten! Martyn Grimes Overton Plating Company - Farnham, Surrey, England
info from Eaton springs for you guys with the pretty chrome springs Pros and Cons of Chroming Springs In a nut shell, chromed springs may look pretty cool, however, a wrongly chromed spring may be the shiniest part in the wreck.During the chroming process a bad thing called hydrogen embrittlement may happen to SAE 5160 spring steel if the chroming is not done correctly. Hydrogen embrittlement is a condition which will cause the spring to shatter into several pieces with little or no warning. When this happens, there may be nothing left of the spring to hold the axle in place. Hopefully, you will be able to walk away from the wreck. Many chromers do not understand the properties of SAE 5160 High Alloy Spring Steel and they will treat it like most other jobs that they do. So if you must have your springs chromed be sure to deal with a chromer who knows all about SAE 5160 spring steel and the proper way to chrome springs. If you are buying chromed springs, and NO we do not sell them, be sure they have been properly chromed. If you are thinking about doing more than painting your springs, think about powder coating. Im not putting this stuff up here to be a dick..I am hopeful it will get some of you chrome happy guys to think about how your shit was done and by who.. in this case chrome wont get you home, but it might get you a place in the county morgue
it may not have been the process that the axle was made in at all.. it could have everything to do with who, and how it was chrome plated forged and chromed could do the same thing if not done right
http://www.volksrods.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30628 The only VW specific part is the fabricated crossmember. The rest of the front end parts are commonly sold for front engine cars.
do it right... or don't do it at all when the time comes to tweak my axle or buy one... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=253845 sorry... I can't seem find his website at the moment
Maybe this wasn't a waste of time after all. We haven't heard from the OP for quite a while now and that's a good thing.
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