Technical Studebaker sheet metal problems

Hello everyone I'm kind of new here on the hamb I recently bought a 1941 Studebaker business Coupe when I received the car it had damage in the rear quarter panel the tree had grown in between the fender and the quarter panel below the quarter window has no rockers they were cut out in the past and the car saged and it split were the tree was I got the car seat back in the shape of the sheet metal was split so I began to try to weld the split I used low-voltage and low speed my problem is if I hit it with the wand more than 2 seconds it will not fuse it melts looks like solder and there is no led in this section of the car is it possible this is made out of aluminum

 

Is the metal clean?Are you using a mig welder?Try to use some periods and comma's.

 

Yes I will get some pictures up tomorow.whats happening now is the metal is starting to get so soft when i tweek car back to weld its collapsing in on its self I think im going to move on to building some kinda inner structure for now as in periods and such smats phone dosent dosent do that when you talk into it but if it bugs you that much your welcome to edit it real nice for me

 

It's YOUR problem to correct...not ours. If your smart phone doesn't have a provision for simple punctuation, I guess it's really not so smart.

There are people on this forum with a wealth of information......it might be worth your while to make it a bit more comprehensible for them if you wish to gain the benefit of their knowledge.

Ray

 

If you were willing to do a "proper" intro, with at least some vague indication of where you are located, there might actually be someone nearby that would be inclined to give you a hand........Just sayin'.

 

When talking to phone, say the word "period"

 

Ok due noted from north Florida near gaineville .my rods a 41 stude body.just wanted to know if studebakers were ever aluminum not go take a spelling course if you don't know anything about this or how to repair this go on to the next model a thread

 

Maybe this is a strange suggestion, but how about trying to see if a magnet sticks to it? I've heard that you can tell steel from aluminum that way.

 

My 41 Champion coupe has no aluminum in it

 

About the spelling course, it just makes it easier to read and understand exactly what you're looking for. And helps with letting someone finish reading it and not giving up so that they may help you.

 

Man, you guys are ****s sometimes. He just got here and you're all giving him **** about his spelling. Geez.

 

There's a baseline.... He fell below it. The post is unreadable.

Lets try this. A quickie revision into English.. It's not his spelling, It is his punctuation.

Hello everyone. I'm kind of new here on the hamb. I recently bought a 1941 Studebaker business Coupe. When I received the car it had damage in the rear quarter panel. A tree had grown in between the fender and the quarter panel below the quarter window. It has no rockers -they were cut out in the past and the car sagged and it split where the tree was. I got the car seat back in shape The sheet metal was split so I began to try to weld the split. I used low-voltage and low speed. My problem is if I hit it with the wand more than 2 seconds it will not fuse- it melts. Looks like solder and there is no lead in this section of the car. Is it possible this is made out of aluminum?

 

Not being "****s".

Problem 1 - the man wants help.
Problem 2 - the man is writing in a very difficult to read format.
Problem 3 - see problems 1 and 2, when it takes three or four read thru's to try to decipher what the man is asking about, it becomes not worth the effort..! It's "our" time he's asking for, he should at least do his part.

I'm sure that Mr. Cooper went through some amount of schooling, maybe college. It would just be a nice thing it he'd write like we were all tought, so we didn't have to learn "his" way of writing.
NOT...that difficult, a few periods, some comma's, a capital letter here and there...would make a world of difference and maybe folks would be more willing to help (when it doesn't take ten minutes to try to understand ten short sentences)..!

Mike

 

I'll guess if since you can't tell if it's aluminum, that you don't know much about welding either. A simple magnet off the fridge will tell you.
It's imperative that you have the correct polarity on the welding machine.
Take some s**** and practice, thin material is chalanging.

 

The initial response had nothing to do with spelling....and spelling was not mentioned. It is punctuation that is the issue. And, the OP's 'at***ude' when responding to suggestions to improve his format.

Written communication has a few necessary components to be easily read and understood. Grammar, punctuation, spelling, vocabulary...are all useful components. Some errors or omissions are not consequential, but the effectiveness of communication eventually is affected if the E & O's are excessive.

Standards, by definition, mean something. If everybody had their own versions of 'standards', how much would you get when you asked for a pound, or a dozen, or had an appointment at a specific time?

The only '****s' are those who think, and act, without regard for anyone or anything but their own narrow interests.

Ray

 

No wonder all the best metal workers are in other country's you idiots are to busy giving me **** on the way post and to the idiot with the magnet idea havent you ever herd of differnt metals mixed together were I live they been doin it for centuries its called tin roofing so whats not to say studebaker didnt mix deffernt metals to lighten body wieght maybe thats why it melts like lead and aluminum

 

Well, we tried.

 

X2 Chaz

 

No, Studebaker did not use anything but steel for body panels in 1941, nor were they concerned about weight. They did use lots of lead, especially around seams. It is quite likely that you are burning into an old lead repair.

I'm sorry you don't like the grammar police, but you have to understand that when asking for help, it helps if those you are asking can understand what you are saying.

 

The bigger problem is your at***ude Hal. You aren't going to last long.

 

Pictures would help. Based on your description I dont know what part of the car you are trying to weld.
If the metal was cracked there is a chance it was repaired in the past. You say there is no lead in that area...was it brazed? Trying to weld a seam that was brazed can cause the metal to melt and explode.
How clean is the metal?
Is this your first time welding sheetmetal? You need to use the s***ch weld technique on sheetmetal. You need to move fast or you will burn through, weld only 1/2" at a time using a series of tack welds and let it cool, then repeat until the seam is welded. You say that your trying to hold the trigger for 2 seconds and moving slow, which is going to result in burning a hole or "the metal melting", as you described it.
Keep in mind that the metal cracked because it was fatigued, so this area is going to be thinner and more brittle than the rest of the panel, making it more difficult to weld.

Without any pictures my first impression is that you are simply using the wrong technique and burning holes in the metal.

 

Bad one.

 

Idiot,,?
I gotta tell you man, coming from you that really hurts.

It's been said not to argue with a fool because people might not know the difference. So here's an example of where two people are looking at each other and both are seeing a fool.

Guess we'll never know?

 

Thank you for all the input good and bad on my post.and thank you for advice. It doesn't seem to have any lead in it .I think many years of having a tree through it caused to corrode.im thinking of removing the section if I can make the new piece if anyone out there knows were I can get a driver rear quarter or just this section please let me know I tried another part of the car and it worked fine

 

French Lake Auto Parts, French Lake MN. Google them. They specialize in old cars.

 

You might also check with CT Auto Ranch, Waco, TX.....

Ray

 

If you are referring to me as "the idiot", I suggest you take a look at MY spelling and punctuation. Then, maybe look at your original post, where this is quoted: "Is it possible this is made out of aluminum?" Most of us would love to help out guy with questions on his build. But, this "idiot" can only try to answer the question that was asked. I don't read minds. Or, posts that are not written in ENGLISH.

 

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MOONDOG I agree with you. Bruce.

 

Borge was a hoot. Hal is an ***.