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super t10 to 354 hemi?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by kevint, Aug 12, 2010.

  1. kevint
    Joined: Mar 9, 2010
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    Just bought a 1956 354 hemi. I have a super t10 4 speed id like to use behind it. Does anyone make a bellhousing for this application
    or should i just use a gm bellhousing with the adaptor plate? Id like to use a ****ter proof bellhousing just for safety due to not knowing what a stock bellhousing can handle. I've searched around and haven't found very much info on super t10 or adapting them to early hemi engines. Any insight would be great. Thanks.
     
  2. George
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    Check Welcap.
     
  3. mickeyc
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    Hello Kevint, Call Willcap in Pismo Beach, California. I bought an entire setup for this very application. It was not cheap, but quality seldom is. I chose to get all parts and pieces from them, but you could save a little by sourcing some of the bolts ,starter, clutch disk, things such as that
    yourself. I recommend getting the entire package, as it has everything you will need except the bell housing. They go the route of quality such as machining both sides of the adapter plate to ensure as true and precise
    surfaces as possible.
     
  4. 73RR
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    Or, try Wilcap...:D:D

    Sorry guys, I couldn't resist.

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  5. TR Waters
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    The easiest way would be to use an early hemi to SB Mopar adapter such as mine, along with a SB Mopar to t-10 bellhousing from Quick Time. My new center hubs are made to accept any type pilot bushing or bearing. The kit also allows the use of an over the counter flywheel, unlike most kits that require their "special" flywheel..... a stock flywheel with a plug and pilot bushing pressed into the center.
     

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  6. kevint
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    thanks for the replies.
     
  7. scootermcrad
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    Yeah, I would say Wilcap also.

    Alright... what is this business you have goin' Tom?! Are you offering an adapter plate with this kit or does this work in place of the "special flywheel" you mentioned and work along side of an existing kit? What do you get for those?
     
  8. 73RR
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  9. Atwater Mike
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    This is a treasure trove! Great choices!
     
  10. farmer12
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    Try Keisler engineering, Wilcap, Quick Time or Hot Hemi Heads. One of these is sure to be able to help you.
     
  11. Demon Seed
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    from BF-AZ

    No matter which adaptor you use its not going to be cheap. I've used Wilcap to mate a TH-350 to a 331 and it was very straight forward. On my latest project I used one of HotHeads adaptors for the Chevy 4 speed. Their Ford adapter is similar. This one uses a Mopar mini starter on the p***enger's side with HotHeads flywheel. B&B pressure plate and a 10.5" Mopar clutch. A simple bolt in system.

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  12. kevint
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    hey 73rr do make and offer kits? whats the cost?
     
  13. kevint
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    same question for tr waters
     
  14. 73RR
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    PM sent. Thanks.

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  15. TR Waters
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    from Vermont

    Maybe this will clear some questions. In the past, if you wanted to adapt an early hemi to "anything", you needed a specific adapter to go from the block to your "anything" bellhousing.

    Quick Time has, I believe, over 700 different engine/trans bellhousing applications. AND, they have sb mopar to almost any transmission.

    My kit, (hemi to SB Mopar) as I stated, uses an over the counter flywheel. So virtually any sb mopar to "whatever" trans can use the same flywheel and starter....if you are using a Quick Time bell.
    Their sb mopar bellhousings all use the same starter mount.

    Another way to think of it would be this:

    1: A standardized adapter kit (with optional pilot bushing choice)
    2: over the counter flywheel
    3: over the counter clutch disc to fit your input splines
    4: Quick Time housing to mate to whatever trans you choose.

    My kits are the same as they have always been.....except for the new center hub which can now be machined to accept any pilot bearing. They still use an over the counter flywheel, over the counter pilot bushing, and no drilling or machining of the crankshaft.

    I am surprised that more people have not heard of these bellhousings. I have dealt with the owner personally, and he is a super guy. I am currently mocking up an early hemi/doug nash 5 speed using one of his bells.

    Confused yet?
     
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  16. 73RR
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    Alot of folks have heard of Quick Time, but most folks have a budget issue:
    RM-6070 MOPAR 318/360 BELLHOUSING S F I 6 . 1 $ 5 0 4 . 2 7


    Like you, my adapter also uses oem style flywheels, stock starters, etc. I use them to avoid the 'custom-one off' issues of price and availability as found in some catalogues. But even with oem 'wheels, when you add a $500 bell to the cost of the adapter project it very well may kill the deal. And, unless you are racing, the SFI label may not be warranted and a factory bell may be just fine.
    Now, using oem parts may not get you to where you want to go. It may require a special piece like the Quick Time package to connect the trans that you 'just gotta have' to the engine that you have sitting in front of you. But if you 'gotta have it', well, then get out the checkbook.


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  17. kevint
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    i dont necessarily have to have a ****ter proof bell. i wont be racing. just some fun at stop lights. the super t 10 was free, so why not use it. i already have the motor. like most folks i too am on a budget. thanks again.
     

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