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  1. FAT 392
    Joined: Jun 2, 2010
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    FAT 392
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    from australia

    to any guys out there who have built there own blown motor for the street, what drive ratio are you running on what octane fuel. some people tell me they can run 1/1 or even 10 over, i am building a 392 6/71 and from what information i can find 10% under is about all i can run on pump gas. over here we can buy 98 at the pump but i do not know if it is measured the same RON?
     
  2. Paul
    Joined: Aug 29, 2002
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    Paul
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    my 303 Olds with 4-71 blower is running 1:1
    estimated compression as stock advertised 7.25:1 with aprox. 6 pounds boost
    all stock internals including cast pistons.
    works fine on pump gas for nearly 10,000 miles so far

    my 371 Olds with 6-71 blower;
    target is to start with 1:1 pullies
    estimated compression ratio is to be around 8.5:1
    with again aprox 6 pounds of boost to start
    will adjust up or down from there
    this motor is being built to take a little more punishment
    forged pistons, blower grind cam etc
     
  3. speedyb
    Joined: May 12, 2010
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    from socal

    one of my cars, the nova (a few years to new to be hamb friendly)has a 355 small block w/a 6-71, 8.5-1 compression, 11% underdriven 7lbs of boost, very mild cam timing, big afr aluminum heads ,has over 10,000 street miles,runs easy 10.60 ets on pump gas at 3500 lbs
     
  4. flamedabone
    Joined: Aug 3, 2001
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    Hit the search ****on for lots of threads on blowers, there is a **** load of info here.

    Octane in the US is based on the R+M over 2 octane rating method, should be the same for you.

    The quick run down for a blown street car is set your compression ratio no higher than 8:1, run 10lbs or less, mind your timing and you will never have a problem. Yes, there alot of variables, but that is a nice rule of thumb for a street motor that will make big power and live forever.

    I have almost 50 thousand miles on my daily driven blown street car, with no issues whatsoever.

    Good luck, -Abone.
     
  5. rramjet
    Joined: Dec 30, 2009
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    I'm running a 6-71 on a 355 SBC. 7.5:1 Static compression and 20% under driven, 32 degrees advance at all times. 5-6 lbs boost. Runs fine on 92 octane. It's 20% under because those were the pulleys that came with the blower set-up when I bought it. Probably would have gone 10% under otherwise.
     
  6. nanos1932
    Joined: Aug 4, 2008
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    671 SBC 8.1 comp 1:1 @ ~12psi on 98 octane runs real good.
     
  7. FAT 392
    Joined: Jun 2, 2010
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    FAT 392
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    from australia

    to nanos32,
    Do you know this because you have a boost gauge. I have a chart from jegs which i think is from weiand and it says that a 350 with a 6/71 @ 1;1 will give 15.3psi.
     
  8. Truckedup
    Joined: Jul 25, 2006
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    Doesn't the actual boost depend on the head flow? Poor flowing heads have a lot of restriction so will show more boost,right?
     
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  10. Paul
    Joined: Aug 29, 2002
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    Paul
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    hadn't seen that chart till just now,
    by their numbers my estimate is off too,
    my numbers were based on what two different reliable blower builders recomended..
    but by Weiand's chart I may want to underdrive mine too..

    'was told I should see six or seven pounds,
    Weiand's chart just about doubles that.
     
  11. madmax
    Joined: May 2, 2006
    Posts: 42

    madmax
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    from Calif.

    Here is the formula for pulley size ratio and fianl compression with pulley ratios.

    Blower Boost Formula- Pulley Sizing

    Bottom Crank Pulley Diameter divided by Top Pulley Diameter X 25.58 X Blower Size ( actual CFM ) divided by C.I. ( of engine ) -14.7 ='s Boost


    Actual Compression @ " X " Boost

    Boost divided by 14.7 +1 X Enine compression ( static ) ='s Final compression at wide open throttle

    Keep in mind generally you will loose 3% of 14.7 per 1000 feet of elevation.

    Hope this helps. Max Sr. @ H & H
     

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