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Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by James Bieler, Mar 14, 2025.

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  1. James Bieler
    Joined: Mar 14, 2025
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    James Bieler

    Help with swap for flat to 302. 37 ford coupe
     
  2. RodStRace
    Joined: Dec 7, 2007
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  3. James Bieler
    Joined: Mar 14, 2025
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  4. James Bieler
    Joined: Mar 14, 2025
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    James Bieler

    Maybe ol fashion 289 basic everything.
    Some of the them had a little power.
    ? I was looking at hipo 289 ... babies are expensive besides too many mods on this ol car has flathead all original to make it solid would take some work to handle bigger horse engine.
     
  5. 31Apickup
    Joined: Nov 8, 2005
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    31Apickup
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    The car in the photo is a 1936 Ford , not a 1937.
     
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  6. James Bieler
    Joined: Mar 14, 2025
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    James Bieler

    Sorry brother I just bought it yesterday still a little confused about the details.it says 36 I wasn't paying attention....JB
     
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  7. James Bieler
    Joined: Mar 14, 2025
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    James Bieler

    Sorry man I just bought it yesterday. Traded it for 2019 mustang bullitt 3000 miles
    And bunch of cash
     

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  8. James Bieler
    Joined: Mar 14, 2025
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    James Bieler

    What do you folks think? New engine more horse .
    Or keep it stock with around 80 hp. The stang had about 600.
     
  9. Form&Function
    Joined: Jan 12, 2009
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    Form&Function
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    from Oklahoma

    I would find a second flathead,build it hot and top it with a 4-71,6-71. Then swap. That would probably give you 300hp if done right and look cool.
     
  10. If it runs and drives, which it should for what you paid for it, maybe drive it for the summer and see if you can embrace the old timey feel of the existing drivetrain. Anyone can rent a car and go fast, but this offers a different experience.
     
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  11. James Bieler
    Joined: Mar 14, 2025
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    James Bieler

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    I do like the fellow of te

    I like feel of the old rides
    I just sold a 48 chrysler convertible. I need to get it running as soon as possible (ford) drive in for a while see how it drives . The mustang was and is a beautiful car 2019 was the first bicentennial . Expensive to maintain . Too many whistles . Never had any problems. Very fast , I will miss it . I think I will put a little hair in the 36.
    Without over doing it.
    Will a y block v8 fit this car without too much modes , I expect drive train changes ie; drive shaft , axles . Brakes rear end. Etc. I might as well go all the way .
    Jim.





    20250314_111554.jpg Old engine.
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  12. James Bieler
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    James Bieler

    Any of you folks live in st Louis area?
     
  13. 6sally6
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    IF your gonna be a "Ford Guy" ...you need to know a 5.0/302 engine is basically just a 289 with a stroker crank !
    5.0 engine is wayyy better than the 289 because they are more plentiful than 289's...They come with a roller cam and can easily clock up 200,000 miles on the odometer. They can be modified with basic bolt-on parts to the extent they will destroy themselves from an abundance of power !! (over 400HP)
    A small block Ford should fit easier than an old Y-block and make more reliable power than the Y-blk.
    SBF is wayyyy cheaper to find/build/and maintain than a flattie or Y-blk.
    I vote for a 5.0 swap with better breathing heads and a lopey roller camshaft to make it run AND sound like a hot rod. 300 EZ HP.....
    6sally6
     
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  14. James Bieler
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    James Bieler

     
  15. James Bieler
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    James Bieler

    I like your idea however that car looks cool it is so stock it has dementia.
    Side way 3 member rear end drive shaft maybe a new ****** . Flywheel . Lots of mods for a stock original, pretty much.
    Lots to think about it.
    When I start will post progress photos.
     
  16. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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    Might help if you know what you want the car to be, when it's finished. And if you can stick to that.

    If not, it will languish forever, never getting done.

    So, start with a list of requirements for the car. These might include some level of performance, some level of appearance, handling, comfort, etc. Then consider things like cost, and time, and how much work you can do yourself (again considering cost and time), how much you'll have to farm out, how likely it is that the work can actually get done to your satisfaction in the estimated time, and at the estimated cost.

    If you don't plan all this, see comment above about never getting done.
     
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  17. 31Apickup
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    Looks like a nice car. Small block fords are long, the firewall will need to be cut and set it back to fit. You’ll need to update the trans and rear end. There are bolt in kits with motor mounts, split wishbone and x-member mounts and rear end mounts. Ch***is Engineering (Now part of Heidts), Pete & Jakes and Weedetr all have those. Weedetr is a member of the forums you can reach out direct to him.
     
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  18. foolthrottle
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    Early Chrysler Hemi
     
  19. southerncad
    Joined: Feb 5, 2008
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    THIS IS THE BEST INFO YOU HAVE RECEIVED, PAY ATTENTION TO IT..
     
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  20. leon bee
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    ****, man, I wouldn't want to start tearing that all apart.
     
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  21. James Bieler
    Joined: Mar 14, 2025
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    James Bieler

    I am and old dude. My first car was a 1968 hemi Road runner.
    Been building and racing them for years. Nearly All types of fast american cars. Never had a mustang , I did have a 68 z28 Chevy.
    57 caddie eldo white convertible. I could go on for a while.
    I figured that I should go to site that deals in the things I may do .thanks 31.I also have a 1999 gmc jimmy suv with a factory paxton supercharger 2 door .
    Check it out.
     
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  22. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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    Interesting, in your posts you look like someone who has no experience at all with cars, and doesn't know where to start.

    I guess the internet is not very good at letting us see other people.

    all that aside...if you want useful suggestions, you really need to tell us a lot more about your plans for the car.
     
  23. James Bieler
    Joined: Mar 14, 2025
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    James Bieler




    I know how you feel think I should keep as is , try and get it running good as possible .paint is great interior is new
    Probably 6 volt though!
    So keep as is or race it up a little .???????<
    I dont know ? That's why I asked you folks for some input on what you would ? Let's make a contest out of it. Fun.
     
  24. James Bieler
    Joined: Mar 14, 2025
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    James Bieler



    Squirrel i just bought the car . Believe me little brother I was building and racing cars before you were born. All due respect.
     
  25. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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    What we would do? That doesn't really matter, does it?

    I'd probably leave it alone, just get all the stock stuff working. But then, I wouldn't have bought that car, in the first place.

    Since you've been doing this forever, you probably know all there is to know. Have fun!
     
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  26. James Bieler
    Joined: Mar 14, 2025
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    James Bieler

    Actually no one cares but you
    You know nothing about the car . I do appreciate your input . I know enough to know you probably give **** to every new member, can I get and amen.
     
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  27. James Bieler
    Joined: Mar 14, 2025
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    James Bieler

    Are most 302s roller cams ? And is a 302 a 4 bolt main ?
     
  28. James Bieler
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    James Bieler

    I guess it depends on what 302 !
     
  29. 1946caddy
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    1946caddy
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    from washington

    You don't say if you plan on doing the work yourself or farm it out.
    If it was my car, I would upgrade the brakes to hydraulic, get some new lowering springs and possibly a dropped axle. install a new 525 steering box. Drive it.
    After that, I would get a 283 or 350 chevy sb and use an adapter to the stock ****** or upgrade to a 39 box. Dual exhaust.
    If you buy the parts in advance, you can do the swap in a month pretty easily.
     
  30. proartguy
    Joined: Apr 13, 2009
    Posts: 832

    proartguy
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    from Sparks, NV

    Looks like a nice restored car, it must be for the trade and cash you spent. A lot of effort and bucks to go from the 21 stud stocker to a performance machine.

    Since you have been on the site for about 4 days you might consider others input without getting defensive. You started out misidentifying the car you bought as a ‘37 and defended your expertise with o/t rides, both not exactly the way to start out on this site.

    To your question; small block Fords are long unless you use short water pump set-ups. Pulleys and accessory mounts can be a challenge compared to small block Chevy motors. ‘36 Fords have a short engine compartment. Using a original-style trans works, but a later one has improvements. If you plan serious horsepower modern parts are required, not to mention suspension, brake and steering to go along with them.

    Anything is possible if you want to spend the money and time. On the other hand a ‘36 motor is about the best of the early 221 as it has all insert bearings and a lot of owners like them as Henry built them. As Squirrel wrote, it is best to have a defined plan and stick to it. I question the plan of spending a lot on a restored ‘36 to then throw away the running gear. But again, you indicate you have a lot of experience.
     

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