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Technical Tapered ball joint reaming

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 54chevkiwi, Oct 15, 2024.

  1. 54chevkiwi
    Joined: Jun 28, 2020
    Posts: 381

    54chevkiwi

    Hey, quick question....

    Moog tells me their ES416R tie rod ends have an 8 degree taper...
    I can only find 7 degree tapered reamers as the closest to that ...

    A) Are they lying?
    B) Is 7 degree ok to use?
    C) Is the hole meant to be 1 degree less to create some type of fit?
    D) am I over thinking this and just use the damn 7 degree reamer and call it good

    Thanks all


    EDIT: question answered. He said 1 in 8 taper which is like 7.13 degrees. I misheard him to say 8 degrees.
    Leaving this here Incase it's helpful for other overthinkers like me.
    Job is done successfully
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2024
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  2. Baumi
    Joined: Jan 28, 2003
    Posts: 3,204

    Baumi
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I made a steering linkage for a Chevy 3600 and my measurement was 1mm of taper for each 1cm of length. I found this to be true for both American made tie rod tapers as well as BMW tie rod ends ( that´s what I used, it was easier for me). I bought a tapered 1:10 reamer with a min dia of 5 mm and a max dia of 15mm.
    https://www.hoffmann-group.com/DE/de/hom/p/161000-5X15?tId=875
    Here´s a link to where I bought it. It was expensive but also one of the best quality tools I ever owned. Cuts through forged steering arms like a charm.
     
  3. arse_sidewards
    Joined: Oct 12, 2021
    Posts: 293

    arse_sidewards
    Member
    from Central MA

    There's an SAE (and international) standard for the tie rod and ball joint taper. The only thing that changes is depth. You should be able to buy any generic tie rod end reamer and have it "just work"
     
  4. '29 Gizmo
    Joined: Nov 6, 2022
    Posts: 1,068

    '29 Gizmo
    Member
    from UK

    Ball joints are not exactly 7degrees, they are 7.125. but not sure they are quoting 8, ball joints tapers are an SAE standard, none are nominally 8 degrees.

    Get a SAE ball joint taper reamer not a 7 degree reamer.
     
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  5. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
    Posts: 13,509

    Unkl Ian

    Speedway has reamers.
    No idea how accurate they are.

    Howe has reamers, I would trust them.
     
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2024
  6. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
    Posts: 13,509

    Unkl Ian

    Guessing the original spec, was expressed as Taper Per Foot.

    Ran into that situation, measuring a R8 taper for my Boss.
    My math was correct, but expressed in Degrees, it made no sense.
    Boss insisted I was wrong. I changed the units, and suddenly it made sense.
    Cylindrical Grinders were frequently calibrated in Taper Per Foot.
     
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  7. banjorear
    Joined: Jul 30, 2004
    Posts: 4,686

    banjorear
    Member

    I have the Speedway unit. No idea who made it. I've had it for over 25 years. Says made in the USA on it. Nice tool.
     
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