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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ryan, Jan 30, 2007.

  1. Ryan
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    I guess I wouldn't have expected any vintage car to pass NHRA spec unless I wanted to turn it into something it is not.

    In this day in age, vintage drag racing just doesn't belong on NHRA tracks... It belongs on the smaller independent venues (which there are 100s of) that feel more like race tracks rather than shopping malls.
     
  2. NoSurf
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    Is there a list of non-nhra tracks?
     
  3. Avg.Joe
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    In this day in age, vintage drag racing just doesn't belong on NHRA tracks... It belongs on the smaller independent venues (which there are 100s of) that feel more like race tracks rather than shopping malls.[/QUOTE]

    I agree completly, Better family fun and friendlier people, less of a modern freak show. I've spent hours on wediditforlove and this fits my bill perfect.... I want one too.
     
  4. Ryan
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  5. WOW! That's awesome.
     
  6. elcornus
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  7. Yo Baby
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    Hey Doc,I wasn't bashing anyone.I just wanted a bit of clarification on a couple of points.I was trying to dream up a modernish alternative chassis without getting too far away from the style of the original chassis.
    But... like I said at the end of my post,,,,old tech,carbed motor and old style slicks (even with a 2 speed) will probably render the need for a tag to go faster than 10.00 moot.
    A tire smokin 10.00 flat pass in a short car like that will still be a guaranteed blast.
    I can guarantee you that you can run at Ardmore and that Johnny will be glad to see ya comin' anytime you roll up to the gate no matter how fast you do or don't go.
    In fact they are probably going to do another nostalgia deal again this year.
     
  8. No truer words were ever spoken !!
     
  9. Damn I'd hate to have to build a car around a chassis that nice.

    Where does the line start?????:D
     
  10. Ryan
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    As soon as Keith gives me the green light, I will post ordering info and what not...

    I am currently work on his new website and it should be launching fairly soon...

    www.rexrods.com
     
  11. raven
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    Tell him to hurry up.
    I need to know what I need to sell and then have time to build...
    r
     
  12. 2manybillz
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    From what I've looked at, the only old design chassis that may be able to be built to NHRA specs (quicker than 9.99) without losing the look is the Dragmaster, probably a 2 top hoop deal like the Mooneyes car. Their cars sort of fit in between the Scotty Fenn/Kent Fuller '50s rails and the Fuller/Woody '60s styles.
    Like others have said though, you go 10 something at close to 150 in one of these 90" cars, it'll be a ride.
     
  13. buick320a
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    I think it's great, I just sent keith a copy of the org. spec sheet that came with my TE440 (1958) ,and wish him all the luck.............and about "no one being satified running slower than 10 sec" that's bull shit, take it from me, 10 sec in one of these cars beats the shit out of 8.90's in a damn Camaro
     
  14. Doc.
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  15. Until you've ran deep into the 10's in an open car... you can't really have an appreciation for these things.

    I'm sitting here reading arguments from people who have absolutely no experience with sitting in an altered or dragster and going 130mph in the quarter.

    It's a rush.

    And if you get to do it a few times a year... you're luckier than most guys.

    Get a few guys with a couple grand each... build one... and drive the shit out of it. I can guarantee that you'll have more fun than drinking beer and posturing at a ratabilly car show... I guarantee it...

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Levis Classic
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  17. dochorsepower
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    Hey, Drive it on the street like I did with mine in 1964. But then that was then and this is now!
     
  18. the shadow
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    well you can race at an NHRA if you have an exhibition license. I have the paperwork for my dragster but haven't filled it out yet. having the lic enables you to do1/8th mile or less exhibition pass's (smoke runs for show etc) to qualify your car must be an original chassis with documented history (paperwork+pics+movies+ local or national records etc) and it al has to be verifyable. you still must adorn all the modern saftey equipment like fire suit,helmet,blets,restraints etc but the car can be original. they limit you to what you can do ie- 1/8th mile or 330 ft burn out ect. good example is big daddy or bruce larson running there un-molsted original cars. it's not easy to get the lic either, my buddy's took over a year to get it and he has an national multi record setting rail from the early 60's.
     
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  20. Rand Man
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    I can see a spec class. Three or four crate chassis. Three or four crate engines. Mix and match. Have fun.
     
  21. Derek Mitchell
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    Is MoKan nhra?

    If not, I got a buddy that wants to run his FED there.
     
  22. Okay, so call me out of the loop, but for whatever reason (probably the fact that REX is just up the valley from me) I've read a few of the current hamb drag, and FED threads. I read a lot of people mentioning NHRA tracks which I'm familiar with the strict saftey standards and not being able to run a vintage car, but at the same time I read a lot of people mentioning to "just keep it slower than 10.00" Does that mean you could run a vintage car at an NHRA sanctioned track if it comes in slower than 10.00?!? Help me out, I'm confused????
     
  23. The37Kid
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    Just like the old days, just add an engine & axles.:rolleyes:
     

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  24. Avg.Joe
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    Hey Doc. show us whatcha got, enquiring minds want to see.

    Joe
     
  25. Shane T.
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    Do a quick search Doc bought Dave(aka Scootersnpie)'s dads original car from 58 right here on the HAMB.
     
  26. hog mtn dave
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    Generally speaking, yes. Look over a rule book for more specifics. At 9.99 a chassis must be inspected and certified by a sanctioning body inspector. Driver must be licensed, etc. Specific rules concerning placement of tubes, diameter of tubing. Slower ETs do not require certs.

    A car that is illegal at 9.99 may very well be legal at 10.00. That doesn't mean that anything goes as long as you run 10.00 though.
     
  27. bobw
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    Speaking of NHRA rules; I've got a street driven fiberglass bodied Fiat with a 406 sbc and a 12 point cage. NHRA doesn't like it because it has an open roof. I need an Altered style cage, arm restraints,etc. to run legally. Currently I'm putting a Crosley Wagon body on the chassis. It will then be a 'door car' and will pass inspection as is for the e.t. I expect to run. I have been able to run at a local 1/8th mile NHRA track and at Brainerd, which is quit strict, when Minn. Street Rod Assn. held fun drags. They limited me to 1/8th mile and said I couldn't ever run a regular program there. Based on these experiences, I doubt any main line NHRA track will let a dragster run without meeting current dragster safety requirements regardless of how slow it is. Just because you run a slow bracket doesn't release you from having the car meet dragster requirements. I hope theres a credible HAMBer out there that can prove me wrong because the current NHRA requirements are unreasonable for slow diggers.
     
  28. Kurt
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    Is there a NHRA Tech on board that could answer these questions?
     
  29. Avg.Joe
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    To get this back to the top, I have a few questions for some of the more experienced ones:

    1. Say a 327 (or any mill) how many HP will it take to get it into the low ten's?

    2. What would be the more period correct intake for it? From what I've seen it looks like mechanical injection but I guess it depended on the dough you had back in the day. ?

    3. What would be the classification B/D ?

    thanks, Joe
     
  30. Boones
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    These are going to fit in very well you you master plan to dominate the world of vintage drags. Mokan, west coast and eventual east coast drags. this is just one more option..
     

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