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Technical Tell me what is up with my frame?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 1942g506, Mar 21, 2024.

  1. 1942g506
    Joined: Mar 28, 2023
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    1942g506

    I’ve been working on my 41 sedan and noticed this repair to the front of the frame. Any guess as to what the patch was for? I doubt rust as the rest of the car was super solid. Possibly hit in this area? Does it kill the car in anyway? How would you proceed? Thanks
     

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  2. choptop40
    Joined: Dec 23, 2009
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    I think I see a kink in the top of the frame,,,not the neatest welding job as long as it doesn't affect drivability....it could be cleaned up if you wanted redo it...
     
  3. 1942g506
    Joined: Mar 28, 2023
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    1942g506

    You do see a kink, think it was wrecked and a portion was cut out to straighten?
     
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  4. Doublepumper
    Joined: Jun 26, 2016
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    1PATCH.jpg I'm bored :p
     
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  5. 19Fordy
    Joined: May 17, 2003
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    What year, make and model is your 41 sedan?
    Looks like a oxy-acet. gas welding job done a long time ago.
     
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  6. Looks like old school torch welding
    Probably repaired a very long time ago

    cool
     
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  7. '29 Gizmo
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    '29 Gizmo
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    As stated above, looks like it was bent and the section cut out to straighten it. There looks to be evidence of the kink still on the top if the frame.

    Probably done decades ago as part of a crash repair.

    Worth checking over all the surrounding components (suspension, steering etc) for signs of distortion.
     
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  8. Happydaze
    Joined: Aug 21, 2009
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    The top hat section, bolts in the web and the independent suspension leads me to believe its a Chevy, but others are similar so can't say for certain.

    Chris
     
  9. Oneball
    Joined: Jul 30, 2023
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    That’s neater than Ford or Chevy factory welding!
     
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  10. millersgarage
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    Unless you are going for The Ridler, leave it
     
  11. BJR
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
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    If it bothers you grind it down so it looks better and paint it flat black so it blends in.
     
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  12. CSPIDY
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    Check the frame asymmetry (straight and square)
    If it’s good, go with it
     
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  13. 1942g506
    Joined: Mar 28, 2023
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    1942g506

    Thanks all it’s a Chevy, just wanted to make sure it wasn’t anything detrimental. I guess it gives character.
     
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  14. daliant
    Joined: Nov 25, 2009
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    I'd be curious to see what's underneath that patch, but like the others said it's been like that for a long time. That ain't no mig weld, probably done with an oxy/acet torch and a coat hanger.
     
  15. TCTND
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    I wouldn't grind it, it's an honest repair. As long as the car can be aligned and drives straight leave it alone.
     
  16. texasred
    Joined: Dec 3, 2008
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    measure the frame to see if it's out of diamond, if not forget it
     
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  17. 1942g506
    Joined: Mar 28, 2023
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    1942g506

  18. BamaMav
    Joined: Jun 19, 2011
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    Grind it smooth, toss some filler on it, paint it flat black and it will fade away out of sight.
     
  19. lostone
    Joined: Oct 13, 2013
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    I do this, (not this poor of work though), for a living. So from what I can see, it got hit, wrinkled, then pulled and kind of straightened. They seem to have a cut an access hole in order to go in and work the wrinkle out.

    And from the size I'd say they used a punch to do the straightening.

    It looks like they found a donor piece, covered the hole and welded on the filler piece.

    "IF" I was going to do it that way I would have made an actual flush fit patch and weld, ground, and metal finished it all.

    But personally I've done a bunch hit that way with wrinkles, I work 99% of the wrinkles out, then cut the corner open. I built a couple pry tools out of different width leaf springs that I slide thru the corner slot, pry and hammer dolly the rest of the wrinkle out from the inside. Once I'm happy I work the corner back down to shape, weld up the corner and and grind and dress the corner out. When I'm done the only way to tell I was even there is from the inside where you can see the corner weld...

    It's a dying art that no one wants to learn and all the experience I have and no one interested in learning so I can pass it on...

    ...
     
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  20. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
    Joined: Jun 6, 2007
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    THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    cut out the old repair

    straighten what's left

    weld in new patch

    sleep well
     
  21. spanners
    Joined: Feb 24, 2009
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    Nah, dial 1800newchassis and it'll be on your doorstep in the time it takes to get a grinder plugged in.:D
     
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