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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 29bowtie, Jan 7, 2009.

  1. Joseph Allen
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    And the name of that fine company ???


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  2. madmike3434
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    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-C...ash=item51d35af1f8:g:p74AAOSwsLtVeg2u&vxp=mtr

    believe these guys are the makers of them, they have repo'd a lot of early chevy parts.

    Problem here is how do bolt them down when they are laid onto the running board braces. You would have to construct a pocket and tack it to underside to accept a carriage bolt that would drop thru the run board brace and nut and washered. Just look at underside of stock run board to see how its mounted.

    NOTE.........lynn steel rubber co sells a special running board rubber that mounts on top rail of run board..........its called anti squeak and fills the gap also between run board top and rocker panel.

    mike lynch
     
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  3. Joseph Allen
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    Oh yes I saw those. It dosnt look like that have the inlay for the rubber??


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  4. Joseph Allen
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    Opps ! I wrote that before I got your message . I'm still thinking of buying these, just holding out a bit longer, for that poor stock one to find it's way home[emoji848]


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  5. Joseph Allen
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    I'm hoping to be driving this car around are island next summer, but looking where I'm at right now , I'm not sure[emoji851]


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  6. Joseph Allen
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    Joseph Allen

  7. Duke
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    Depends on the manifold. Some are designed to not be run progressively, so it is all or nothing. Not a street set up. You need to look at the design of the underside.
     
  8. Six Ball
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    There is a shop here that makes some steel Chevy running boards. He's been doing it for a while and it's a small shop. Looks like '36 are the oldest but Tony might be willing to expand if he felt there was demand. He might do one-offs?
    https://www.facebook.com/innovativerodproducts/
     
  9. 33 chev masters are very hard to find fenders and parts for . 34 will not interchange !!!
    the 3 door hoods are american hoods . the 33 Canadian hoods have 4 vertical louvers .
    the rear fenders are a touch smaller than a 34 fender and mount differently.
    front fenders and braces are also quite different. Trunk lids are the same 33 and 34
    same lid for use as rumble seat or trunk lid ,just turned around . trunk lid hinges are hard to find .
    I have been collecting 33 34 chev parts for 15 years , and very rarely do I find 33 parts
    only 2 sets of 33 front and rear fenders in that time .
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  10. madmike3434
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    Question is , other than looks, they are not the choice to run. Thought you said you have a 364 nail head buick with 2 4 barrels setup, 400 turbo behind that ????????????? That's manageable , 3 x 2 barrels are manageable with progressive linkage. Single holley carb 650 CFM........364 x 2 = 728......= .go to next size SMALLER carb. You would probably stick that 6 x 2 set up on and not be a happy camper.

    Most people make the massive mistake of over carbureting the motor with toooooooooo much carb. Stand behind one of those cruise nite specials, lumpy bumping away and smell the stench of the exhaust of too much rich carb.
    Waste of gas and you will stink of it . 2 fours done right on progressive linkage can work happily if set up correctly with right jetting.

    mike
     
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  11. madmike3434
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    I bought a NOS left rear 33 master rear fender at street rod nats in 1972 Detroit. Got it in trunk of my coupe, brought it home and put in the rafters.........year later was going to prep it to paint and a right rear I had. Wifey says to me...........uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum mike, this fender is longer than the other....WHAT WHAT WHAT........NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. .33 master longer than 34-35 std maybe 3-4" ???? forget exactly. It looks exactly like a 34-35 std , just bigger. Sold it at a swap meet friend took it too.

    Walking around a swap meet in waterdown ont, couple years later, I spot a fender NOS.....pull out cash as fast as I could and off I go. All the way home am saying to wife , writing on fender sure was familiar...........ya, I bought it again !!!!!! This time I advertise it in hemmings motor news with measurements.........bingo its a 1933 Chevrolet master series. Guy offers me $500 and is coming to get it next day from ohio.

    Just remembered I went to visit a guy named Randy Wilcox ???......runs CHEVY HEAVEN in London Ontario area
    1-519-670-2553......he had a built roadster 33 , cabriolet 33 and he also had a lot of 33---35 parts .

    Joe the wood guy, that's a real rare hood for Canadian 33 master only................most cars I see run the doored hood USA style for 33 master. I bought a 33 master coupe trunk lid from Joe wood remover a few years ago for my 35 chev standard roadster..........needs to be narrowed and shortened to fit but the curvature to the lid is correct.

    mike lynch
     
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  12. madmike3434
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    they do not have inlays for running board rubber, because they are SMOOTHIE STYLE.......rubber from I&I repo is glued directly onto the boards using a special contact cement from them.

    Stock boards..........rubber is glued to special METAL BACKING PLATES and attached to run board with twist tabs.
    Study your existing running board. Oh NOBODY makes those metal backing plates nor the twist tabs. You have to find an original with rubber crapped out and not wreck it getting rubber off. !!!

    Big part of building street rods is not to just grab keyboard and start posting anything pops into your head.
    Look at the problem , study it and figure out how it was made.

    mike lynch

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  13. Joseph Allen
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    Ok thanks for the help. I'll quit bugging you now [emoji52]


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  14. madmike3434
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    I am just asking you to slow down and figure out where your going with this car, without bombarding your fellow chevy guys with question after question.

    you were originally asking about a rear end to use and suggestions were made as to what width is best and possible various rear ends to use. Figure that out and find what you want to use as a starter. Make sure the rear fenders are mounted to the body when finding rear center of the fender tire opening. Stock the rear end sits forward in the wheel well, placed directly in center of fender opening makes everything easier.

    That's your assigned next job. One job at a time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    mike lynch
     
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    Joseph Allen

  16. flatmotor40
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    from georgia

    The company for new running boards is Smoothie Fabrication in NC phone #704-736-9407.Got mine a year or so ago.But had to put build back a little.Will get started on it soon.Got the rubber fromI&I
     
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  17. Joseph Allen
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  18. Joseph Allen
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    Joseph Allen

  19. I use toyota 4 runner rear ends in my 33 and 34 builds .1/2 the price or less than a 9 inch
    All are 4.11 or 3.86 posi , with a 9 inch ring gear .56 inches wide .12 inch drum brakes .
    33 spline axles . Triangulated mounts and a heavy sway bar . If you use the later pots , they are electric locking .Havent paid more than 250.00 bucks for any of them .Any required parts are at rock auto .Early rears are 56 inches and bolt in ,later rears are 60- 62 inches wide . A no brainer for us chevy guy's.
    These are the axles the rock climbing guys use in their 4x4s
     
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  20. Chuck Craig
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    Mad Mike forgot to mention that I sold him a pair of NOS 34/35 STD running boards a while back. Mike is a great source of information and does some really nice work.
     
  21. madmike3434
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    Yes Chuck had listed a [pair of NOS 34=35 std running boards complete with rubber and metal mounting pads.

    Until I saw those listed on ebay last year, I had only seen another pair NOS.......actually was 7=8 pair in NY state 35 years ago and guy would not sell any of them. Was a war at the end of the auction with snipers but I was prepared.
    The running boards are for my roadster build.

    Now Chuck about those fenders LMAO ............

    mike
     
  22. madmike3434
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    JOE, whats the stock bolt circle and are they 5 or 6 lugs ?????????????

    mike
     
  23. Joseph Allen
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    Hey chuck .. did you ever sell those rear fenders ? I'm still waiting to see if rear right is repairable.


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  24. madmike3434
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    these are the NOS running boards I won from Chuck, right out of the crate before I gave them a soapy bath .

    I had just got back from Brockport NY with S10 extreme truck, whole bed was full of stuff for the roadster .

    mike NOS BOARD UNDERSIDE.jpg RUN BOARD 34 35.jpg RUN BOARD NOS UNDER.jpg RUNNINGBOARD NOS.jpg
     
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  25. Joseph Allen
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    Thank for the info [emoji106]someone just gave me a Buick rear end. I'm going to tear it apart and see what's inside, still leaning towards the ford nine.


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  26. Joseph Allen
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  27. Hey Mike the toyota rears are 6 bolt
    Chev 6 bolt rims fit right on them
    Using 6 bolt 15 inch artillery wheels on mine
     
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  28. Joseph Allen
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    Five .


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  29. madmike3434
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    Oh YA...........mikie likes that the artillery wheels............definitely going to have the kool factor
    mike
     
  30. madmike3434
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    No need to tear it apart......simply rotate the pinion so the u joint is straight up, put piece of tape on it.
    Next mark the drum at the very top with tape.
    Next rotate the drum , one complete turn and count how many times the pinion tape goers around.

    Simple..........3 turns........gears 3.0
    ......................3 1/2 turns......gears 3.50
    .......................3 3/4 turns.........gears 3.75
    and on and on.

    Those big buicks , Pontiacs , oldsmobiles........depending on year could be 5" bolt circle.

    That 422 " olds i used to run was easily 450 ft pounds torque.,........never busted any gears in the 55 chevy rear , or the jag. Gear ratio for fun driving.......stay at or below 350 .

    mike
    If your not running 12" slicks and hooking up, your not going to break anything.
     

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