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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Paul, Jul 20, 2010.

  1. Paul
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    jonathan,
    thanks for the picture, I knew I'd seen something like it before

    dennis,
    love your car, your's deffinately has been an inspiration

    marvin,
    exactly
     
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  3. Paul
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    so I've gotten a bit side tracked again,
    plans may change..again..
    seems to be what happens when I take too long on a project

    been thinking about puting a McCulloch supercharger on this car,
    missed out on a complete setup for the early Olds recently
    and haven't been able to get it out of my mind.

    I picked up this more or less complete setup for the early Cadillac motors the other day
    and am thinking of adapting it to work on the Olds



    so today I rotated the back and propped it in place.
    if I use it it'd mean instead of the Cragar 4x2 with 48s, Ronco Magneto and Fenton valve covers I had planned
    it would get an all stock look...
    maybe, too early to tell,
    it might look good with the supercharger polished and shiny valve covers and magneto.. who knows?



    because the kit is for the Cad motors I will have to fab brackets and locate the tension pulley

    it also means having a lower hub and or pulley made up

    so I drew a couple versions of the pulley in CAD to try to visualize how it would work,
    one version is all one unit whittled of steel
    and the other version would be a two piece affair, steel hub and aluminum pulley


    another issue will be having my new radiator modified to relocate the upper hose connection, but that shouldn't be too big a deal..
     
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  4. general gow
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    the supercharger is a rad idea.
     
  5. Paul
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    thanks,
    I've never had one of these before
    but from what I've read and from the people I've talked to that have run them so far makes them sound like a very interesting challenge.
    -proper tension on the belt to work with the upper pulley action, boosting fuel pressure as the thing starts to make boost so it doesn't flood at low boost or starve at high boost, sealing the carburetor for blow through so gas stays and goes where it's supposed to
    but it is supposed to be the best dollar for dollar pound for pound most effective way to get a big boost in horse power
    plus they just look and sound cool :)
     
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  6. LB+1
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    Let me see now - Seems like somebody put this in a song -
    "I Did It My Way"
    As for as my eye, it looks like a good choice.
     
  7. kisam
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    Oh Holy Hell! I'll be watching!
     
  8. Paul
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    redrew the lower hub and pulley,
    to get the supercharger to fit I need to eliminate the outer pulley on the water pump
    and move the crank accesory pulley in to align with the pump's inner pulley to drive both the pump and generator

     
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  9. Paul
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    watch as Paul looses what little grip on sanity he may have had :rolleyes:

    Hi Kathy!
     
  10. F&J
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    I would go with two piece hub and pulley for sanity sake, for both the upper and lower, and try to keep the weight down on the upper set. My 66 K20 has a factory double groove cast iron water pump pulley, and I was waiting all these years for it to wear the pump bearings, but it's fine. But I don't rev mine like that one will be :)

    The thing that would stess me, is sealing the carb. I recall reading about crushed brass floats I think. ...and how does the carb get air so that the gas can flow out of the fuel bowls?...meaning "bowl vent".
     
  11. F&J
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    Now that I think more, it should be way easier than the the carb that sits inside a air box. This should be easy, I would think.:D
     
  12. Paul
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    yeah a lot to think about with this setup.

    sealing will be interesting, shafts, adjuster screws, pump rod... all have to be tight
    and the variable fuel pressure required has me thinking too

    the modern versions have simplified things a bit,
    no variable speed pulleys and fuel injection would make it a cake walk

    the 4GC has vents to the inside of the air horn, so the bowls are exposed to inlet pressure
     
  13. Paul
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    couple weeks ago I pulled the 6" soft foam out of the school bus seat bottom
    and replaced it with 3" dense foam,
    just pulled the old upholstery over it and set it in place

    I didn't shape the foam or use any batting so it had sharp corners that bugged me
    so today I pulled the naugahide back off and put some 1" batting over the dense foam
    and streched the 'hide back on

    it softened the edges a lot

    also picked up this ancient rug at a yard sale a while ago,
    so I threw that in just to see what it might do to pull the room together



     
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  14. stephane-rod
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    Nice but the floor ?!
     
  15. Paul
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    Ha ha ha
     
  16. dvlscoupe
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    Just came across this thread. You're work is great and has given me some idea's for my T. The first idea is to tear it all back apart and start over haha.
     
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  17. Nice score on the McCulloch.
     
  18. SinisterCustom
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    Doesn't Metalshapes have a McCulloch on his roadster???
     
  19. Paul
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    Yes, he gave me the name of his go to guy, I made contact and told him when I get a little further along I would be calling him. Also talked to a good buddy that ran one on a Stude, I will be bugging him too.
     
  20. Paul
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    Picked up the hub and lower pulley from the machine shop today

     
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  21. general gow
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    heretofore known as "The Living Room T" hahaha.

     
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  22. Murch
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    This thing just keeps getting better, very awesome! The supercharger is the icing on the cake, can't wait to see this thing done, great work!

    Murch.
     
  23. 41 Dave
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    Paul, Looking forward to your roadster rumble to life with the new supercharger installed ! Goin' to be a mean soundin' Beast !

    Dave
     
  24. Not the first old car I've seen with a old rug for carpet.
     
  25. Boones
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    My 51 came with bathroom rugs glued on the door panel. the seats look good, the carpet has its purpose... pattern will hide dirt LOL
     
  26. Just found and read this whole thread.
    Krazy nice metal work !
    I love the way this T is shaping up.
    I'll keep watching this one till you button it up.

    Oh yeah, your gauges are the same as my '39 COE !
     
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  27. ChuckleHead_Al
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    Any updates on your roadster?
     
  28. Jeem
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    Great tech! Cool old timey, traditional car, BUT....
    I love the old rug!!
     
  29. Paul
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    wish I could say things have been moving along but truth is I haven't done much of anything to it for some time..
    only excuse is that lately my job has been taking all my time and energy
    lame I know but ya gotta take it when it comes

    I did put a clock, lights, ignition and kill switch in the dash though :rolleyes:

     
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  30. Car is looking great nice job.

    Frenchy
     

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