The site looks just as empty as last time the guy posted in March ( Here... ) I would love to see something like the AHRA events happen. Until an event is organized it is all talk. That's not to say it wont happen, just that at this point these guys are just talking and showing off an empty incomplete site. Hyfire
Livingston's gone, Bucky's got his nails dug in. There are some financial and governmental/political issues. Butch/56sedandelivery.
I can a little bit. Orville Moe headed up Spokane Raceway Park since the late 60's until I think 2007. Raised around a million dollars from local investors to build the motorsports facility now called Spokane County Raceway, and NEVER EVER repaid his initial investors. Yet the track continued to operate for 30+ years. Ran into some legal trouble along the way trying to bribe the mayor of the city where the track is located, Airway Heights, and with the I.R.S. auditing him about his taxes. After those legal issues the facility was put into receivership and all the assets sold off. Spokane County purchased the racing facility and leased the operations of the track to a group headed up by Bucky Austin in 2008.
The AHRA Gas class is a freakin joke... Here is the short version: Superchargers are permitted..EFi Permitted...May run on Gasoline, Propane, Alcohol or Methanol Starting line two step accepted. Down track throttle stops permitted. DELAY BOX: Permitted. Any aftermarket electronic ignition boxes cannot be modified from factory specifications. Sooooo......Basically you can run about anything other than nitrous and turbos, any fuel except nitro methane and any modern electronics you want.... This is no gas glass,,,,,its just anothe cluster fuck high dollar class. I see 5.0 mustangs running vortech superchargers on alcohol running 10.90 quarters on fucking retarded DELAY BOXES AND THROTTLE STOPS..... LAME LAME AND OH YEAH.....FUCKING LAME!!! Read it for yourself and you decide.... This class is reserved for full bodied entries with full fenders, hood, grille, top, windshield and functional doors. running on a 10.90 quarter mile standard and a 7.00 eighth mile standard. AHRA National and Grand American Sportsman events, are All Run fields. Minimum weight for all 8-cylinder entries, including driver, is 2600 pounds. Minimum weight for 6 cylinder entries, including driver, is 2,000 pounds. Minimum weight for all 4-cylinder entries, including driver, is 1,200 pounds. Heads up Pro Start four second tree. DESIGNATION: G followed by car number. Numbers must be minimum of 4 inches high on side windows and passenger side of windshield. Requirements & Specifications: BODY: BODY: Must be full-bodied entries with roof. Dragsters and Funny Cars are prohibited. Hood, deck, fenders and doors may be substituted with fiberglass units. Doors must be operational inside and out on all cars. Dragsters, Funny Cars and Street Roadsters are PROHIBITED. BUMPERS: Optional. FENDERS: Fiberglass stock fender duplicates are permitted. Rear fenders may be trimmed for tire clearance. Altered fenders must have the edge re-rolled or beaded. Front inner fender panels not required. FIREWALL: MANDATORY. FLOOR: MANDATORY. GRILLE: Required and may be painted replica. HOOD: MANDATORY. Hood scoop height maximum is 13 inches. WINDOWS: Cars must maintain OEM window locations and all windshields and windows must be clear unless factory tinted. CHASSIS: BALLAST: Permitted and must be permanently attached as a part of the cars structure, and may not extend behind the rear of the body or above the height of the rear tires. May not be attached to roll bar or cage. Removable weight must be securely fastened to the frame or frame structure by at least two 1/2 inch steel bolts minimum. See General Regulations. BATTERY: All wet cell batteries must not be relocated into the driver or passenger compartments and must be securely mounted. A maximum of two automobile batteries is permitted of 150 pounds combined maximum weight. Plastic battery hold down straps are NOT permitted. Minimum bolt size is 3/8 inch steel or 1/2 inch aluminum. See General Regulations. BRAKES: Four wheel hydraulic brakes required. Aftermarket master cylinder systems are permitted utilizing a dual master cylinder. DRIVER: Must remain in stock location (left side) and must hold a valid AHRA/NHRA/IHRA competition license. FRAME: AHRA/NHRA/IHRA certification mandatory on any vehicle that exceeds 150 mph in 1/4 mile. FUEL SYSTEM: No part of the fuel system may be mounted on the firewall. Aftermarket tanks or fuel cells permitted. If trunk mounted tanks or fuel cells must be vented to the outside of the body and equipped with a flash shield between trunk and driver compartment. GROUND CLEARANCE: Minimum 3inches required from the front of the car to 12 inches behind front axle centerline. SEATS: Minimum of one seat is required. Aftermarket type seat permitted. STEERING: Minimum diameter of steering wheel is 11 inches. SUSPENSION: Must have automotive type front suspension with one shock absorber for each sprung wheel. TRACTION BARS: May not extend through floor. Length of bars may not extend more than 1/2 of cars wheel base. WHEELBASE: May be altered. a minimum of 90 inches and a maximum of 125 inches. 2 inches left to right variation permitted. WHEEL & TIRES: Must be automotive type wheel. No wire wheels permitted. Any tire and wheel combination that will fit under original body contour is permitted. ENGINE: CARBURETION and INDUCTION: Any type or number of carburetors permitted. Electronic fuel injection permitted. Superchargers are permitted with 14.1 restraint. COOLING SYSTEM: All cars must have a complete fan, water pump and radiator cooling system. Electric fans and pumps are permitted. ENGINE: Any internal combustion engine allowed. EXHAUST SYSTEM: Competition type exhaust systems permitted. All exhaust gases must be directed out of the car body and rearward away from the driver and fuel system. FUEL PUMP: Electric fuel pumps are permitted. Ignition switch must act as fuel pump shutoff. FUEL: AHRA approved gasoline, alcohol, methanol or propane permitted. HARMONIC BALANCER: Must meet or exceed SFI 18.1 specs., MANDATORY. LIQUID OVERFLOW: One pint minimum capacity MANDATORY. NITROUS OXIDE: PROHIBITED and any entry having a system must remove the bottle and any lines from solenoids to nitrous plate, intake manifold, carburetor or engine. STARTER: All cars must be self starting. MANDATORY. DRIVELINE: CLUTCH: Must meet or exceed SFI 1-1 specs. MANDATORY. DRIVESHAFT LOOP: Required and must be within 6 inches of the front universal joint, and must circle entire driveshaft. FLEXPLATE: Must meet or exceed SFI 29.1 specs. MANDATORY. FLYWHEEL/ FLEXPLATE SHIELD: Must meet or exceed SFI 30.1 specs. if floor or firewall has been removed. MANDATORY. All entries with manual transmissions must use a bellhousing meeting or exceeding SFI 6.1 specs. MANDATORY. REAR AXLE: Any rear axle or factory third-member permitted. NO locked rear ends permitted. Any narrowed rear ends must leave tire within 3 inches of wheel well outer lip. Spools permitted. Aftermarket axles required. TRANSMISSION SHIELD: Automatic transmissions must meet or exceed SFI - 4.1 specs. required. Positive reverse lockout required. All automatic transmissions must be equipped with a neutral safety switch. SAFETY EQUIPMENT: DRIVER RESTRAINT SYSTEM: Must meet or exceed SFI 16.1 specs. and must be re-certified every 2 years from expiration date of the manufacture. HELMET: Must be full face with shield and meet or exceed Snell M2000, M2005, K2005, SA2000, SA2005, or SFI 31.lA, 31.2A, 41.1A or 41.2A specs. MANDATORY. MASTER CUTOFF: A master cut off switch must be installed on rear of entry and marked "ON - OFF or PUSH OFF" on rear of entry if battery is relocated. ROLL CAGE: If entry has an altered floor or firewall or if vehicle runs 135 mph or faster a roll cage is MANDATORY. If stock floor and firewall are present, a 6 point roll bar is acceptable. PROTECTIVE CLOTHING: Any entry not having OEM floor and firewall, must wear a minimum of a 3.2A/5 jacket and pants is MANDATORY. A jacket meeting or exceeding SFI 3.2A/1 specs. on all other entries is MANDATORY. Neck collar meeting or exceeding SFI Spec. 3.3 MANDATORY. All competitors are required to wear long pants. Nylon pants prohibited. WINDOW NET: If rules require a roll cage, window net meeting or exceeding SFI 27.1 specs., required. MISCELLANEOUS: ELECTRICAL: Starting line two step accepted. Down track throttle stops permitted. Electronic ignition interrupters or stutter boxes, PROHIBITED. DELAY BOX: Permitted. IGNITION: Any aftermarket electronic ignition boxes cannot be modified from factory specifications. TAILLIGHT: One 2 inch working tail light mounted above the rear tires is MANDATORY.
GASSER...i feel your pain, but don't get too excited. remember it was N.H.R.A. who put them out of business. and their still KING OF THE HILL. as much as we (grass roots) old schoolers hate N.H.R.A. they rule. hell man i quit drag racing the day they started bracket raceing. and brother that was 46 yrs. ago, and it hurt me and not them. what's the answere? support all the OUTLAW strips we can, listen my H.A.M.B. brothers, that's exactly what the D.O.T.D. and H.A.M.B. drags is doing. so let's attend yellow belly's event in MAY, 2010 and keep our tradition moving forward...POP.
GASSER...i feel your pain, but don't get too excited. remember it was N.H.R.A. who put them out of business. and their still KING OF THE HILL. as much as we (grass roots) old schoolers hate N.H.R.A. they rule. hell man i quit drag racing the day they started bracket raceing. and brother that was 46 yrs. ago, and it hurt me and not them. what's the answere? support all the OUTLAW strips we can, listen my H.A.M.B. brothers, that's exactly what the D.O.T.D. and H.A.M.B. drags is doing. so let's attend yellow belly's event in MAY, 2010 and keep our tradition moving forward...POP.
A lot of racers hung up thye helmet for Bracket racing. It was not racing..........cause to win class.........you had to run it "ALL OUT" or you went home early!!!!!!!!! You had to earn the right to race for the Trophy........and it was fun........I was young and I had to find all the cars in our class and right down there time as they Time Trialed...........that was the best part..............time trials run after run after run..........all out to win class................1975 AHRA World Record Holder....at the end of the year......We still got the Certificate, and The 1975 Thompson Summer Nationals Champion. For its time it was Bad Fast........D/HR 11.43ET 118Mph still got the Video........350 cu in single 4 bbl, Harland Sharp Experimental One Piece Assembly with a 1.7 Ratio Roller Rocker System........only one with it. Hot Rod Class was kind of a warmed over Super Stock with extra mods. lbs / Cu In class.
I loved the AHRA. It had the only decent flathead classes. NHRA had flatheads running against overhead valve inline engines and there just wasn't any way to beat them if both engines were seriously built. We also liked the very liberal for its time stock class rules. We could run any cam, use any transmission, put on any carburetor you wanted to as long as it would bolt to the stock manifold, any ignition, stock classes were determined by cubic inch of the engine without weight being factored in, and on and on. My partner and I used to say that in AHRA, cheating was legal. But mostly I liked that flatheads ran against flatheads. Oh, and I'm an AHRA world record holder as well.
The new AHRA is open for memberships now. They start as low as $10. http://ahradragracing.com/AHRA_MEMBERSHIP.html
When I do go to a large NHRA event, I go on Friday and watch the real racing, like a 32' Bantham with a 258 cube straight 6 running in the high 7's in the quarter, and turned up over 10,000 r's.
Unless I am missing some thing, I see nothing for the average guy involved in nostalgic drag racing, attempting to capture days gone by.
Looks like they're getting off to a rocky start. I have a 69 Nova that was a record holder at one time in, I believe, 2/JHRA. http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=199528&Filter=30#indextop
To veer slightly off thread, Ken Dondero won the AHRA Pro Stock Championship in both '75 and '76 driving Grumpys Toy. Im desperately seeking which major events he won in 1976. I know he won 8 of the 10 held that year I just don't know which ones. Ive talked to Ken and he can't confirm which ones. Ive talked to Jim Tice Jr. and all the old records are lost. Any help at all, even if you know just 1 or 2, please PM me. Thanks, Doug
AHRA already burned their bridge here in Shreveport 2 days before the track opened!! Supposedly were 3 months behind on the track lease and wanted to open the track without having any insurance in place. The track owners terminated the AHRA not the other way around as they would like you to believe. Hope you guys have better luck with them than we had!!
AHRA is not back. They are making a lot of noise but also a few problems for others. Ask Thunder Valley Raceway in Louisiana. They have already left a string of unpaid bills including the fellow they hired to get that track in the loop. He left what he was doing , stopped his business, packed up and went there working his tail off at their request and he is a very experienced fellow in track operation. When it went south through nothing he did or didnt do he returned and to date has not received a red cent in wages or expenses. I have given them over a month to straighten up what they owe him and it was already overdue. Enough already. When someone takes advantage of one my friends to the tune of $4500 plus that tears it and he is a HAMBer as well which makes him one of us. Might be a great idea and was once a super organization but with no gold and no integrity you cant even buy a cup of coffee these days. Money talks , you know what walks. How could they fix it? Pay the man what you owe him. pure and simple.
I wasnt kidding . It wont happen. You boys in Lousiana near Thunder Valley , dont take my word for it. Check it out. tis a house of cards this new AHRA deal. Don
I heard that AHRA has cancelled their race in Calgary Canada set for the June 19-20 weekend, siting track improvements not done, according to their website. RaceCity in Calgary DID NOT recieve track rental $ by last wednesday as promised...
San Antonio's new management dropped the AHRA for IHRA sanction (too many broken promises from the A, there's still a lot racers who prepaid to race at San Antonio who didn't get their money back)
This is starting to sound like a bad deal, on other forum's there are some comments of things with AHRA that dont sound good. It seems like there was a nostalgia group back in the late 90's that took alot of people and made plans that never came true. Jon
Things don't look too promising if what's posted here is anywhere near true. A shame because grass roots racers have needed a sanctioning body to cater to their needs for a long time. Frank
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