Projects The bucket of ugly! A de-uglifying thread...

I don't know why you'd hesitate to mention the fact that you build frames for a living, Chip, especially custom T frames. Now is the time to get yourself established, BEFORE the nostalgia T bucket resurgence begins...and it will, judging solely by the enthusiasm and loyalty of your thread followers. Nostalgia T buckets - as differentiated from Fad T's - are still exciting, attractive (as long as they've been de-uglified!) and affordable. Your future is assured. Trust me on this.

 

New Street Rodder came today. Chip, you're hometown got some ink. Neil DeAtley's '27 Track Roadster? Nice car!

 

'Dad is right-on here. Enough to the point that you would be the ONLY guy I'd go to personally to build a frame. Maybe for a slightly OT (early '70's) C-cab. But that's a few years out, I've got a Pontiac to finish and an A rpu project to do after that. Plus some mechanical stuff on the '63 Dart, and maybe get some paint on it, and paint the hallway in the house...

 

I don't build frames or anything else for a living however I think you can find someone closer to home
Chip is a little far south from you

 

I pick up what you're layin down Larry. I have a lil mig that I'm very confident with around sheetmetal and garage projects, plus an acetylene set I'm very rookie level with and a big ol' arc machine I've never used, but learned a bit on arc at a community college night course a few years ago, that I think I can handle well enough given some time. But when the C-cab in my head reaches the build stage, I might hafta go north. Interested in giving welding lessons and helping me build it in your shop? I understand the repair rate $50/hr, $75/hr if you watch, $100/hr if you help. Dunno what the rate is for a lesson. PM me if this ventures OT, but I think it could be interesting to document the process.

 

And at the risk of poking the OT bear, in that I'm speaking outside the '64 down cutoff, I really believe this is the best place to float this Idee-er. I'm assuming the mods will give me a tap on the shoulder if this is veering. I'd like to build a C-cab somewhat ala the Hot Wheels brown jobbie that some of you may remember, sans the mid-engine configuration. So, basically a standard Fad-T chassis, but a Jag (there I said it) type rear suspension in a Buttera fashion, and a Ford axle in front, maybe with a four-bar and a hairy canary small block Dodge, more . Plus super kooky exhaust pipe rear fenders, in white 'natch

 

Im getting scared about now ....or maybe not
Jeremy

 

I take it you're probably waking, where as, for me, it's waaay past bed time.

 

8.30pm Saterday.
Jeremy

 

Wow, don't I feel like a dumb-ass. I'm sure the very info is all over the interwebs. Anyhoo, it is 1:45 here right now. so it's well past bedtime.

 

So, I'm nursing a splitting headache, a big knot on my head, and a smaller one on my forearm. Lesson for the day - If your gonna store your extra T chassis in the rafters, tie that heavy SOB to something, because it will pick the most inopportune time to decide to start sliding out and fall on you (like while your in the process of lowering a freshly HPC coated classic style T header out of said rafters)! D@mn that hurt! If someone had been around a certain storage unit a couple of hours ago, they "might" have gotten a heck of deal on a T chassis with all the brackets and mounts already on it, but I'm less upset now! ;-0

Kurt (Blownfuel).

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Brad, I have a soft spot for C-Cabs as I almost started to build one back in 76.
Kurt, it sounds like you got off lightly, hope the ouch passes quickly.
Jeremy

 

Ouch...I remember your pain Kurt!
Only in my case it was an FJ40 frame with no frontend and I only had to roll it up two wooden ramps to get it in the garage. Nothing to it...just grab it like you mean it, lift the front up and start pulling it in. No sweat....until one of those little ramps pops out and one tire catches on the garage doorstep, turning forward progress into a sharp right!
Spring hanger right into the floor with my knee in between!
Ohhhh the crap we put ourselves thru...but at least I got a big scar to brag about!
Hope you didn't dent that frame!!! LoL

 

Tim

If this storm thats coming in here is up there this weekend you might be spending a lot of time in that building with the Rebel. Looking forward to spending some time with all up there next weekend.

Gary

 

There wouldn't be room in my shop I could use more room myself it's small.
I think that with a little work we could get your welding skills to where they needed to be and you could do it all yourself.
On the other hand, I'm not sure what to make of your C cab idea
Maybe it's a good thing I went to bed and didn't read about it beforehand

 

It's been done Brad. My neighbor had one or maybe two when he lived in L.A.. Bob Read. I'd be surprised if Chip doesn't know the name or at least the rods in this photo.

 

I think I know that name Gary. But only from discussions on here, I'm sure you've posted that picture before, and I have a vague recollection of that C vab in a 70's Rod Action or Street Rodder.
And Larry, thanks. Like I said, such a project is ways off. But I will keep you in mind.

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Way OT, but hopefully germain to the thread...

 

Just had breakfast with Bob. Not sure who those people are in the picture above are. Don't think either one is Bob. Probably newer style (more 70s) than is good for this thread. Little John did the one off front suspension. Bob just knows everybody down south. Has done and owned everything is still the nicest guy in the world. Is it only me or do the rest of you sometimes wonder if you deserve all the good friends you have. That includes all my good friends on this thread and all the HAMB. Okay moment of reflection is over back to shooting down somebody else's bucket.
I followed another of Bob Reed's T's to club breakfast this morning. Another one not thread or even HAMB friendly but a kool kar.
Gary

 

I sure like the look of the tudor T, but that would not be a color I would ever choose for a car of mine.

 

I love the colour scheme of that Tudor so there you go, two opinions straight off the keyboard.
Gary, why do you say the Tudor isn't HAMB or even this thread friendly ? I can't see the engine so it could be one of those ultra modern ugly fuel injection type things some call engines. I like the wheel tyre choice also and the fact that it hasn't be sliced makes it interesting too.

 

Whip it is a '70s build. Jag. differential, fully independent suspension in front. Coilovers all around.
Not HAMB friendly. Bob Reed is just one of a kind. It is my privilege to know him. Chip met him at LARS last year but I'm sure didn't have time to know him. If you think you have done something in the hot rod game Bob has eclipsed it without bragging.

 

I also really like the color combo on that lil Tudor. great looking car.

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I was thinking it was just the cup on the running board. I like it too.
Jeremy

 

Hey Jeremy, it was the horrible coffee that was in the cup that had me wondering why.
Oh Gary, I understand now but you got to remember that our good English friends had developed and well and truly manufactured the Jaguar independent rear suspension in the early sixties and used on the first E Type Jaguar. 1961 the car was in full production and can I add, the Chevy people could of learnt a heap from our English friends. I will agree though on the use of IFS on period correct type cars even if so called hidden under fenders, to me they still look wrong but if one is building a "Modern " Rod then fine to use.

 

I think a big part of why they weren't used more back then was the limited supply available to the common man.

 

Bob Reed isn't the common man. He bought eight or ten of them in one shot in the '70s.

 

I was thinking of back in the 60s, but maybe there were more available in the salvage yards in Cal.

 

They became widely used in NZ when the XJ-6s started getting stuffed.
Jeremy

 

Having the displeasure of driving two or three of the early'61/62 3.8 litre in-line six , with it's clunky course 4 speed cog-box Jaguar E Type when I was an apprentice Panel-beater I would and should, if I had had the money, purchased a couple of them just for the rear ends. They are as strong as a 9" Ford diff. and the E Type was nice and narrow for T Roadsters etc.
I did have a XJ6 diff narrowed down for my Anglia and remember the cost of replacing all the seals and bearings almost was the cost of the house I owned at the time.