Projects The bucket of ugly! A de-uglifying thread...

yay! just 36 days to go

 

I think if you have somewhere to hang your plate Jeremy,eg. your nudge bar, the law will expect it to be there all the time. When I purchased my Roadster the plate was screwed direct onto the spring perch cover which blocked airflow to the radiator plus looked darn ugly. So when I rebuild the car those brackets and wholes disappeared into the scrap bin never to be seen again.

 

New Computer, so I don't have any pics handy, but mines mounted with aluminum clamps that clamp around the axle.

 

If ya hafta have a front plate, mount it at such an angle that it looks - and acts - like a spoiler.

 

I will angle mine and it can always fall off to under the seat.
Jeremy

 

The old story was that the California Law said "one plate prominently facing forward and one facing the back" So we/I just bolted our plates back to back and mounted them on the back. It doesn't work but I still run mine that way mainly to keep them together.
Gary

 

Well that is clever Gary and certainly nobody can say that you don't have a forward facing plate. I like that idea immensly I just may borrow it.

 

One small problem with that.............not 'prominently' facing forward................details, details!

 

Ran across this in the Petersen Archives,

 

Looked at this picture for a long time, if it was built with a Ford banjo rear end it is a mid 60's build style reminiscent of Cotton Werksam style. (not sure if I spelled Cottons name correctly)

 

That is Don's Hot Rods old T

 

So can somebody tell me who had the quicker car ? I would think the Buick had quite the edge over the carburettored Caddy engine but not too sure. Interesting looking at the difference in the steering column and wheel angle and height too.

 

Marc

Ivo told me the time when he invited me to his house to sign my dash that he raced Grabowski once and both of their engines were pretty stock (except for carbonation I guess) that he Ivo inched out Norm at the end of the quarter. He seemed pretty proud of that. Ivo loves to win.

Gary

 

Two years ago, when I first started looking at pics of T-Buckets after 35+ years away from paying much attention to hotrods, this car was the first I found that I wanted to emulate. The low stance and simple uncluttered elegance still captures my attention, even though I'm unable to emulate it's stance.

 

Cotton achieved an almost sinister look with his Ardun powered "T" but his frame was responsible for the low profile. , ,

 

That one is definitely cool, and the fabrication on that frame is excellent, but I think I like the black and copper one better. Here's another angle on it


And here is another with a similar stance that caught my eye, but I think it would need a rear wheel and tire transplant to better fit here


Unfortunately I've not found someone to build a frame to get my project to a similar stance, at a price I can afford, with a MCO.

 

Here is the link to the build of Don's black and copper bucket:
http://www.clubhotrod.com/hot-rod-talk/23618-project-3-k-underway.html

 

Bill, I would be happy to build you a frame for materials only but the freight would be a killer.
Jeremy

 

I do appreciate the sentiment. There has been no shortage of kind folks offering to build a frame for me, but there is always a snag somewhere <shrug>

I've resigned myself to building a Tweedy Bird stance car based on Ron Pope's standard frame configuration, instead of the low slung form I originally wanted. Unfortunately I've had a string of health setbacks recently, or I'd already have contacted him to formalize things.

 

Cool...I'll have to check it out

 

Umm, Chip builds frames.....

 

Chips hiding, he seems to be having fun on his Facebook page so maybe he'll show up back here when things slow down in his shop.

 

Do you know if he issues the certificate of origin? I've been told that without one it's near impossible to get the car registered here in KY

 

Give him a call at (602) 881-0175, he's approachable.

 

Told by whom? Your best bet is to go to the nearest DMV office yourself and simply ask. Then take what they tell you into consideration when planning your project. As long as you're not breaking the law there's a mechanism to get it done.

 

No, I don't know, but why ask me, ask him...

 

missysdad1-"Told by whom? Your best bet is to go to the nearest DMV office yourself and simply ask. Then take what they tell you into consideration when planning your project. As long as you're not breaking the law there's a mechanism to get it done."

He's right. Until you find out for sure how to get it titled, it's just speculation.

 

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Although I think it would be fairly easy to order a stock frame w/ a MSO and have it modified to sit lower (probably cheaper than custom built as well), I'm not so sure a drastically low car would work for you. Although the height would make it easier to get in and out of, if you look closely at the pics of Cotton's frame, you'll see that the trans tunnel seriously intrudes into the interior of the car. Also, the floor space gets seriously cut into when the floor drops down in between the frame rails. Also, on the DMV subject, most states (can't speak directly about Kentucky) require either the MSO or receipt for all the materials used to build the frame. They may also require a safety inspection of the frame and/or proof a certified welder welded it.


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Told by 2 people who've been through the process. So far, in 3 attempts, the only consistent information I can from the local DMV is that I need to have receipts for everything. The only thing I've been able to get in writing was the requirements for getting a salvage title. One of the attempts I had to explain that there is a difference between a hot rod and a race car, after being told that race cars do need a title.

 

The Kentucky DMV website lists requirements for registration of a custom built auto in Kentucky

http://www.dmv.org/ky-kentucky/car-registration.php#Custom-Built-Cars

Custom-Built Cars
If you built a custom car in Kentucky, you'll need to apply for a vehicle identification number (VIN) before you can register it. Take the following to your local KY DMV office:

• Receipts and invoices for all labor and parts purchased.
• Certificates of title for any major components that came from a previous vehicle.
• A notarized statement detailing what was done to the vehicle.
• A completed Application for Vehicle Identification Number (Form TC 96-169).

Once you've been issued a VIN, you'll need to have your custom car inspected at your local sheriff's office. Upon passing the inspection, the Kentucky DMV will send you an approval notice. Take this to your local county clerk's office who will verify the information and then organize for your certificate of title to be sent to you.

Once you have your certificate of title, you're ready to register your car. Follow the instructions in "Registering a Vehicle in Kentucky" above for more information