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Projects The bucket of ugly! A de-uglifying thread...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by need louvers ?, Aug 14, 2013.

  1. Tim_with_a_T
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    I measured my new style MOON spinner cap tonight. It has what I believe to be 2.5-16 threads...measured the bung on the tank 2.454" with a set of calipers and 16 tpi with a thread gauge. Hope that helps somewhat.
     
  2. Silly boy
    Because there is NO room for them!!!
     
  3. falcongeorge
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    Nice!
     
  4. Cannon plugs are a specialty application, used where the connection quality is King. They offer 100% strain relief for the solder joints, which is usually not found in other types of connectors. If you must solder, these are the best choice. But as noted above, they're not small and when you find out what they cost each....
     
  5. You don't see many of those anymore, and many of them were used with radios and Comms units that were susceptible to radio noise that can originate from pin/socket contacts moving slightly within themselves inside the locking mechanisms. Plus, a soldered connector can cope with EMI pulses a little better than a crimped contact connector. Those things suck to work on, especially if the last electrician was from the "more is better" school of soldering.

    When I worked on the B-2 Bomber program, ALL of our relays (literally hundreds of them) were solder-style. What a nightmare.
     
  6. need louvers ?
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    Nope, I know virtually nothing about this engine, but the one thing I do know is the compression has been bumped a bit and it has some bit of cam. I can't really tell HOW radical it is because of my virtually open headers, but it is a bit lumpy. Oh, found out earlier this week it's a 283, not a 327 as I had been told.
     
  7. need louvers ?
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    Absolutely cool Tim! Thank you! It looks like Halibrand Steve is going to send that cap that he posted a page or two ago, so it might not be necessary to go after a new Moon cap. We'll see how it goes.
     
  8. need louvers ?
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    That is a freakin' cool scoop! Hard to say what it would look like with just one carb under it though.
     
  9. Well then put 2 of them under there!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D
     
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  10. The shape of that scoop is what some of us have been pitching for for awhile. That specific scoop would probably be too big for your SBC, it's better scaled to the wide stance of the hemi, and the somewhat higher arch of the intake manifold (in addition to the second carb). The color being black and two tone also helps the visual size perception. Scale that down a bit and it would be fantastic on the SBC, single carb or not.
     
  11. need louvers ?
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    Jeez oh man, ONE is driving me to drink this week, and I'm considered by most to be "competent"!:D





    Ya, that's what I would consider the "Surfers, Tony Nancy, Greer-Black-Prudome" type scoop. I know there are varitions in the three names I just rattled too, but they are of a similar size and scale. I have had three scoops of that type that are current reproductions on the car at some point, and what is available is just too big. Time right now is not going to let me spend too much more messin' around with this car until after Good Guy's next month, so I think just making everything work is gonna be it for a little while. Maybe after I can take some time and make something cool, although I have to say the smaller teardrop scoop that Falcongeorge posted a few pages back is where I think I will be going with this if it happens.

    This whole induction thing makes me wish I NEVER sold my Algon cross ram style injector manifold 15-20 years ago... Converted to EFI with EVERYTHING hidden that would have been flat bitchin'...
     
  12. need louvers ?
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    Not much of an update, but I thought it might give you guys a giggle!

    First off, I finished the tank straps yesterday and painted them with a dark grey metal-chunk wheel paint that I had left over. I wish the picture of Rocky the Schnauzer came out, 'cause he instated he help with the painting part. The sparkles kinda washed off before Judy got home. At least, she didn't notice! Soon I'll be ready for my bigger tank and a fuel gauge. Both will be very welcome. Oh, and Judy will be very happy to know that her request for enough space left in the bed for two pairs of shoes will be accommodated.

    The giggle part came in with a call from a good friend and customer of mine that was having issues with what to do with his '51 Chevy's firewall. HOT ROD CENTRAL TO THE RESCUE!!! The only problem was, how do I haul even my small welder over to his joint? The Bucket Of Ugly, of course.... Hi Ho, Hi Ho, it's off to work I go...

    EDIT: Got so excited about my welder shots that I forgot the tank straps...
     

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  13. Chip, it's boxed, labelled and will hit the post office tomorrow morning!

    Steve
     
  14. Chuck R
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    Love the scoop, when I saw it, a memory popped into my very tiny brain. It reminds me of Fuller built G.B.P dragster.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Chip!!
    First time I ever saw a welder riding shotgun! Gonna need a pretty long dropcord.....
     
  16. Phillips
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    Dang - been a few weeks since I stopped over at Chip's virtual shop here. Had about 30 pages to catch up on! Great work! Not much to add, but are there enough pics to start a "t-buckets at work" thread? Here's one of Andy's (posted by his daughter I believe, thanks) haulin' the Torq Thrusts!
     

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  17. Phillips
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    Oh yeah - this profile shot just slays me. You are nailin' it.
     

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  18. steel rebel
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    Reminds me of a story about Grabowski, I heard or read. I guess his family was in the egg business and he used to be seen in his roadster delivering eggs.
     
  19. Hackerbilt
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    Man...that has the profile don't it!?!? The square shoulders on the tires just look so right too.
    What would have been the most likely tire sizes here?

    It's funny...I was dead set on NOT using a Pickup box on mine but I gotta admit that some T's just look so right with them...and thats one of them right there!

    [​IMG]
     
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  20. need louvers ?
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    Thank you sir...VERY MUCH!!!
     
  21. No worries - I'll be glad to see it mounted on your T - a cool project for sure and one of the best threads currently on the HAMB

    Steve
     
  22. leon renaud
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    Look at early hot rod magazines printed on the old "News Print" type paper and a lot of undercarriage photos are mostly black blobs with very little definition. I remember reading many articles of "How do I get my car in your mag" And the Editors were always saying they needed bright light colors to really be able to show detail in the printed photos. They definitely did not like the habit of painting frames black and I can remember that being almost the standard color of frame rails back then.I think magazine people had a big influence on the direction hot rod painting went in the early years.
     
  23. steel rebel
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    A lot of truth in what you are saying. It's probably the main reason the gold and white roadster got the magazine coverage. The colors just jump off the pages. In the early '90s when my roadster was selected for a calendar photo shoot and I first heard the statement "I don't really like T buckets but I like yours" I called and sent pictures of my friends beautiful black on black flathead powered '29 A roadster to the photographer and said "It just says hot rod". The photographer got back to me and said "your friends car says nothing to me" I need colors.
     
  24. falcongeorge
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    Work truck...:p
     
  25. need louvers ?
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    Never thought of it before, but that is some damn good reasoning! It makes perfect sense too.

    Yesterday, Judy and I went to a large swap here in town, and one of my "scores" for the day was the '56,'57,60 and '61 Hot Rod annuals. I've always had the large format '62 and on annuals, but had never seen the small ones. Funny thing I noticed, between the '60 and '61 was the use of white as a detail color. It was like it wasn't anywhere in '60, (which was really covering '59) and EVERYWHERE in '61 In all actuality '60).
     
  26. This in part underscores the brilliance and artistry of Steve Coonan's work. He's figured out how to make black "pop". He's aided by understanding the souls of his subject matter and his target audience. Your photog contact above may have been a reasonably good or better technician.........but lacked, at least when it came to our passion, artistry. I wonder if he had an appreciation for Ansel Adams?:cool:
     
  27. falcongeorge
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    My thoughts on the popularity of white on engines, firewalls and running gear at that time are slightly different. I think a lot of it had to do with wanting to show off how "clean" everything was.
    Also, at that time, Kenworth & Peterbuilt specd white for thier truck engines so oil leaks were easy to spot, and alot of large marine engines were painted white at the same time. Its a way of saying "look how clean, high quality & oil-tight my stuff is". I always figured thats where it had its origins.
     
  28. steel rebel
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    He was, is a good professional photographer and had, has a studio in L.A. I'm sure you have seen his "Hot Rod Calendars". He does many indoor and outside auto related photography. But your probably right, he doesn't have a real love or understanding of our early hobby and probably doesn't care. His style is showy color on a black background and he does it well.
    Don't get me wrong I love black rods. That is why I recommend my friends roadster and I really like the roadster in your avatar as well.
     

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  29. Tim_with_a_T
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    Hey I was trying to wrap my head around carburetor air bleeds this morning and stumbled across a general informative video by Holley on YouTube. It didn't really help me out, but listen to 0:23-0:35. Sounds like the high speed air bleed(s) could be a factor in your fuel drip?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQMJ7a4hg2I
     
  30. need louvers ?
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    HHHHHMMMNNNN, Been through all of them, but hey, I could have missed some thing...
     

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