Folks Of Interest The Curse Of Kenneth Howard

Totally understand this. I've been running into this brick wall with a lot of our entertainers as well.

Usually I can separate it... just depends on that line, like y'all are saying,.

For this guy, I think about this whole scene. It was a part of a rebellious culture, and maybe some folks pushed that boundary a helluva lot harder than some of us are comfortable with.

 

I’m gonna build that barn find and drive the crap out of it.
The car, stripes, paint…….aren’t evil.
The bad never made it past the persons hand. They alone will answer and they alone are responsible for themselves.
If I crush the car, will the toasters made from it also be evil?
Where does it stop.
The possession isn’t the focus. The focus is the person. That score has been settled. I’ll drive the car with a clear conscious

 

I got ya now!

 

[QUOTE If the best customizer of a car did the car you bought then you found out he had a shady past, would you dump the car, would you remove the striping?[/QUOTE]


If the guy's beliefs or actions would have made me want to beat the hell out of him my answer to both your questions is a definitive YES. I wouldn't have let him touch my stuff then, and I sure as hell wouldn't touch his shit now.

 

One ironic thing I'm surprised nobody's mentioned: The Nazis themselves would most likely have blacklisted Kenneth's work as "degenerate art".

 

Yes. I almost shared an article on that. The boss in Germany didn’t like certain styles of art. Even from German artists.
Kinda ironic, don’t ya think.

 

I get the same feeling with some morning coffee hot rod buddies when the “n” word spews out of their pie holes. Haven’t been to coffee in a while.

 

Good for you.

 

Six pages and he's still dead and still an asshole. Just thought i would check in and see if anything had changed.

 

It's like rain on your wedding day

 

Just the fact that he was mentally ill. It actually explains why the way he was.

People love to hate though. It makes them feel better about themselves.

The irony of this entire thread is that Von Dutch didn't like himself and didn't want people to like him.

People here are saying f-him. He's an a-hole. His work sucked. That's exactly what he wanted!

So Yes Kenneth Howard hates you and you hate him.

Von Dutch is resting in peace knowing that.

 

VD was probably mentally ill, my coffee buddies are just plain a-hole racists.

 

It`s easy to sweep the dirt and filth under the rug. But it is better to throw it out in the open and talk about it and try to be a better person by what was wrong in the past. In the year 2000 when the Von Dutch name was branded, people talked about the name but knew nothing about the person. I told them he was a perverted man. The flame job on Betz`s El Camino had painted sperm on it that said swim towards the light. Do you tear down every confederate leader`s statue down because of what they supported in the past? No. Maybe. That`s another topic for another day. But you must know about the history which shaped this country and the changes we made in society to what we have become today. The same goes with the evolution of the Hot and Custom. And the people who built them. And how they have evolved thru time.

 

If I had an item, the said Kenneth Howard (Von Dutch) Hates You. I would destroy it knowing what it means now. And tell people when seeing it what it truly means and the story behind it.

 

It's interesting the fact that the guy loved jazz... Maybe he even wore Levi's...

It's ironic if you think that he loved the art or the products but hated the people that made them...

Just like those who appreciate his creations but dislike him...

I think he was a product of his own ignorance and of those who raised/sorrounded him...

 

Exactly, he was pretty incoherent for a nazi..

 

Despicable person.

 

I feel the same and usually walk away from such people…..but…words alone often do not describe who the person really is..I have a friend that throws around racist terms, but not in public.And I know for a fact he would go out of his way to help anyone in trouble…..So it can be just what they were exposed to in the past…

 

He's referring to this one, post #5.
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/pinstripers-preference.1206094/#post-13749812

 

When you think about it, we have more than a few assholes (to varying degrees) who became "worshiped celebrities" in the hobby. It used to grate my nerves a bit, but when you look at it, they probably helped spawn a ripple effect of new shops, cars, suppliers, interest, and different directions of car builds. Even the most flawed vessel has a purpose I suppose.

 

LOL.

 

My Brother always said, "I'm not a racist! I hate everyone the same!!!" Lol.

 

The difference in saying "n word" and the actual? Zero. As if anyone who sees that doesn't know what the dreaded term is? When that started a couple decades ago or more I actually said "Go fuck yourself" aloud to the TV anchor for that same reason. A veiled way to say something derogatory.

I think I'll be done with this now because it's becoming convoluted in my honest opinion. Some people think I'm a sack o shit too because I give no quarter based on (insert your favorite cause). This topic has hopefully put some reality on the hobo stew our society is turning in to and the habit of dredging up the bads and trying to fix em now. Fuck all of it. Has nothing to do with our beloved cars and fellow folks who share in em. Peace out, off to fuck with my 39 some more. Oh yeah, Ken Howard hates you...

 

Maybe he was mentally ill and maybe he wasn’t….

 

Okay now, time to move on, there's nothing to see here . . .