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Hot Rods The EUROPEAN DEUCE thread

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 57snrf, Apr 8, 2015.

  1. Deuce Lover
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    Clem, They are unique to the Model 14. The instrument panel is also different,not in the center but above the steering tube like a 33,34. Sheldon
     
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  2. Fordors
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    The headlamps are Marchal, made in France.
    IMG_0185.jpeg IMG_0186.jpeg
     
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  3. Deuce Lover
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    With due respect,the Model 14 Ford 0.jpg 32 British Ford light front.jpg 32 British Ford light.jpg is a UK creation and unique to UK.The lights are British,Not French.
     
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  4. Deuce Lover
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    32 Marchal lights 2.jpg Here are the 32 Ford Deluxe Marchal head lights 32 front view 2.jpg 32 Marchall head light (1).jpg
     
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  5. Deuce Lover
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    32 Ford German Bosch Head lights 32 Ford Bosch HL  front.jpg 32 Ford Bosch HL 2.jpg 32 Ford Bosch HL 3.jpg 32 Ford Bosch HL 7.jpg
     
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  6. Fordors
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    Thank you for the correction, I appreciate it. I see the difference in the Marchal and British lamps but the shape of the buckets and similar divider in the lens led to my misidentification. Regarding the Bosch lamps it would appear they used the Ford Commercial buckets and stainless headlamp doors with German electrics and lenses.
     
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  7. clem
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    thanks for the photo.
    Do you have any more photos of this car, also rear shots ?
     
  8. clem
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    @Deuce Lover
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    Thanks for your replies and sharing of knowledge.
     
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  9. Deuce Lover
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    Here are pics of 2 custom bodied German '32's German 32, 1.jpg German 32 , 2.jpg
     
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  10. Nat34
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    They are all original Ford UK parts, unique to the 1933/34 fourteen model.
     
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    Nat34

     
  12. Deuce Lover
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    The only Model 14 body parts that interchange with a '32 are;
    Grille and shell
    Front splash apron
    Hood tops
    Rear frame horn covers
    Fuel tank
     
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  13. Nat34
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    Here’s a few more photos, showing the lamps with the correct diamond shaped diffuser inside, and on the glass itself.
    I’ve also added a pic showing the dropped headlight bar, and the offset instrument panel.
    Excuse the dust on the car. It’s in storage and some building work was being done close by
     

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  14. Allways wondered whats the reason behind frosted glass headlights on vintage British cars while vintage French cars have clear glass headlights.
     
  15. chrisp
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    Probably to diffuse the light more evenly?
     
  16. Beanscoot
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    Are the colours original on the blue car with red interior?
    Seems an odd combination.
     
  17. Dick Stevens
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    When you post pictures please select full size images instead of the thumbnails to make it easier and better for people to read your post.
     
  18. Slightly off topic for this Euro Deuce thread but just as interesting. A 1938 French Flathead V8 Matford Convertible. On PWC now for 28000 euro :rolleyes::oops:o_O

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  19. chrisp
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    Those are ultra rare, one of the reason being a wood framed body, only for the convertible, not the sedans.
     
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  20. I,ve had two Matfords and i would have a guess at 7/8th the size of a American Ford. V860 and wide five wheels all the same. Then again i have seen one full size Ford branded as a Matford :confused: . I think the smaller Matfords all had those ugly headlights in the fenders.
     
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  21. chrisp
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    Yes the US Fords were imported in France between '35 and the war as Matford that's why. He was selling also Mercury, Lincoln and Fordson.
    From 1912 to '35 it was Ford then after the war it was Ford again from 1946, but for '46 and '47 we're talking about this time about a modified Matford sold with the Ford badge.
    So from '36 to '39 there were no Fords sold with the Ford badge unless imported individually but with the extremely high import taxes at the time it's unlikely.
    The Matford Alsace has a wheelbase of 285cm/112" and a track width of 148cm/57". For the one after the war it's 275cm/108" and 142cm/55".
    A neat feature is that from 1935 to 1939 as far as I know they used the US 1935/36 ford style rear wishbones, after the war I don't know. I just got a pair for €60, it beats the $400 they go for in the US...
     
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  22. Deuce Lover
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    0-1.jpg Just discovered by my friend in France and now in his yard
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  23. Patrice
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    Nice! Is it a AN? ANF? V8?
     
  24. Deuce Lover
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    32 Ford French AN  manual.jpg AN, 19 CV 4 cylinder
    Here is the French owners manual that came with that roadster.

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  25. Patrice
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    It is perfect with the matching marshall headlights and the raised hood sides panels. Thanks!
     
  26. Deuce Lover
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    Those are not the correct head lights,they were switched out by one of the previous owners.There were 2 different Marchal head lights for Fords in '32,Standard and Deluxe. Those on the car resemble the standards.
     
  27. bob miller 32
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    from france

    upload_2024-3-16_9-16-4.jpeg

    old pic find in a french swap meet
     
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  28. 57snrf
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    from California

    From the UK... and still one of my favorites!
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  29. 57snrf
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    from California

    ... and also from the UK... (Photo Mad Welshman Photography) 324591541_MadWelshmanPhotography.jpg
     
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  30. This one is for sale in U.K. 19500 GB Pounds.

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