The Official Hunnert Car Heads Up Thread

Like I said before, it sucks and it was not our intention to have a conflict and we're sorry that it had to be this way this year. Obviously there is some overlap, but I wouldn't expect everyone to skip out on the Scrap Drive unless they are really into drag racing. Not everyone is. Some people will decide the Heads Up works better for them that weekend. And some people will find that the Scrap Drive is where they would rather be. Same thing happened with the Road Block a couple years ago when the Scrap Drive and the Road Block were on the same date. It sucked, but they were also 1 1/2 hours apart. They got through it and worked together to find a date that worked for both parties.

As with the past 2 years, if the show continues to grow and Da Grove continues to work with us by continuing to offer better dates based on their schedule and the performance of the show, then we can all work together to find a permanent weekend for the Heads Up that does not conflict with another local show, as impossible as that seems. I thought it was bad enough that it was going to conflict with Indy GG, but that is moot now it seems as they are changing their date and killing the drag racing.

 

I will say Bobwop does fullfill his promises, if he says he is coming he is there,with 2 cars, and with at times a car trailer full of cool cars. Bob helped us at our event greatly..THANK YOU BOB!!

I will say everyone reading this needs to realize when you put on an event you are at the mercy of the track, they only have so many open dates, and June, July and Aug are obviously the premium dates to have. So the Czars probably had 1-2 weekends to pick from and they made the best choice they could.

I am excited to attend the HCHU and Meltdown in 2011.....these events will truly represent reliving the 60's drag strip experience.

Scrap Drive guys, I wish you well that day, and I KNOW, you will be packed with traditional show cars and hot rods.....not everyone is into drag racing and that is ok.
We all cannot throw money hand over fist into these vintage drag cars.

We are all into the same/similiar thing we need to unite and help the cause grow, shit will inevitably get f*cked up as it always does....but togther the cause grows.

The cause???? - vintage/traditional Hot Rodding / racing / customizing /etc.

Respect to all involved.

 

Thanks for everyone's concerns....I recently talked with several Tin Butcher members about this and actually none of us are that upset with how things are working out; that's just the way it goes sometimes. I'm sure both shows will do just fine, especially if the weather cooperates; we've had some rain on our show for the last 3 years; we're due for a nice day.
...like I said earlier, better to have shows to choose from than none to go to.

The Scrap Drive has been on the same weekend as GG's Indy for the last 3 years and we've still had a nice turnout.
...personally I'm real grateful that we have the Scrap Drive, the HCHU, the Road Block and now the Torquefest show/swap in Maquoketa, Iowa among others;...these are all great shows in this area.It'll all work out fine.

 

I'm just glad you got my trans spill cleaned up!!!!

 

I'll second this 100%. It is very difficult to work with race tracks to set event dates such as these. Often, dates are very limited and we just have to work with the cards we are dealt. It is a lot of work to put on an event such as the Heads-up or The Scrap Drive, and the guys who do this work deserve a lot of credit.

As stated above, the Hunnert Car Heads-up and the Meltdown Drags are now tied together in a nostalgia DRAG CIRCUIT. Both events will bring something a little different to the table. The Hunnert Car Heads-up is 60s Elimination style heads up racing, whereas the Meltdown Drags is 60s heads-up match racing.

Both events require the same safety specifications for racing.

 

I'm off that weekend, and should be ready to race.

 

Bob-Wop and Hellfish, I LOVE you guys man.

I'm really glad to hear everyone commenting on how hard it is to get a date any more that doesn't conflict with another cool event. You guys should try having a car, a dragster AND a bike too. Dragster, Bike or Car? Then which drag strip, poker run or car show do you want to go to?? Oh, then I could also go shooting. And there is a match I could go to there almost every weekend in the Summer. How about swap meets? Car, bike, gun show or just a junk or salvage yard.

It's tough. Fathers Day weekend, we (as the shop) have to usually choose between Eyes On Design, Back To The 50's, or Mods Vs. Rockers.

The date this year for the Heads Up is unfortunate. But the track offered us a better date based on the shows attendance by both racers and spectators. We had to PROVE that we could generate enough income for the track to warrant our own day without sharing the track with another event (like Django and Hellfish said). And with everyone's help over the last to events, we have. Last year we had our own day, but it was a date that pretty much no one else wanted. This year, we have a more prime date, because guys like you Bob-Wop showed up and ran with the Heads Up.

I would like to think that the Scrap Drive is helping to promote the history of hot rodding and customs, and that the Meltdown and Heads Up are helping to promote another facet of our lifestyle, the history of drag racing. And how FUN drag racing used to be before the corporations and million dollar bank accounts got involved and ruined it. Arguing is for the asshats that show up in modern cars and want to whine when they lose.

 

HotRodChassis--check your PMs.

-Brad

 

There's still a stain... and the kitty litter I used to soak it up is just plain evil. It won't go away. It's STILL there, pushed off to the side in a gooey mess. It must be made out of Twinkies.

 

At least you didn't get that really fun ride home! How's the engine working?

 

I've got a question about the rules and classes:
Are you guys breaking the classes down by style of car, or the times they run during qualifying?
For the "Gas" class, are there going to be different classes for blown/unblown, and are you going to break them down by weight/CI as they were back in the day? Or will you have blown Hemi Willys (A/GS) running heads-up against 301ci tri-5 Chevys (D/G)?

Also, are you running any kinds of rules like the East Coast Gassers and Geezer Gassers have, such as no nitrous, no delay boxes, no electronics, blowers limited to 6:71, etc?

-Brad

 

Once we have enough cars in any field, we'll break the classes down into divisions. But right now, I think we had about 6 actual gassers last year. You can see that's not enough to have a day of racing elimination style. So for now it's style of car. Like I said, as it grows, we'll get more specific.

We don't really check the other stuff right now either. Since we're limiting it to '65 and earlier, 8-71's are fine since they existed. Although folks may not want to hear it, Nitrous did too. I'm pretty sure we didn't have anyone running with the normal cars last year with it, only some of the exhibition cars. And I think that's fine, they are only there to show really fast cars, not win the event.

In the future, I could see us saying NO ELECTRONICS OF ANY KIND EXCEPT (Pertronix or a rev limiter, no one want to lose their engine because they're too excited) and no

 

BTW, thanks for your input Brad. Suggestions on ways to make the show more fun or more period correct, or fair are always accepted. Especially from anyone that's been racing heads up longer than us!

 

If you want it more period correct, the first place to look is WHEELS.

 

Im guessing this would make my rodlite front runners a problem in the future?

 

The man suggested "period correct", so you probably know the answer.

not my sandbox, it was just a suggestion.

But if you plan to run at the Meltdown Drags, yes, your Rodlites would need to be changed. Steel wheels are acceptible, you know. It isn't always about the GO, so add a few pounds and make the SHOW

 

Ok Bob, we're more concerned that folks are racing safely. The Heads Up is not the Meltdown. Steelies are great. And a period correct look is always a plus. But safety is paramount. And the guy running period correct rear Americans last year or the year before shelled one out because his period correct wheels didn't match his non-period correct power.

We want everyone to have a safe, and enjoyable day. And if that means looking the other way on a pair of rims when the rest of the car looks awesome, we're ok with that. Fast AND Safe are the name of the game.

When we're all rich, we can get brand new period looking wheels that are rated for the modern power everyone runs under the hood.

 

I don't think wealth has much to do with having period looking wheels. First off, they don't need to be new, second, steelies can be picked up for next to nothing. And most factory steel wheels will handle plenty of horsepower.

Again, not my sandbox.

 

The car that shelled the wheel was racing on the same day as the HCHU I. I couldn't tell when HCHU and Midwest Gassers were racing since the track pretty much mixed them together, but if you want to get technical, I guess he wasn't technically racing in the HCHU portion of the day, just the same day, same track and same time.

It's not the Pileup. We're not excluding cars based on wheels or equipment.

 

Do we win a prize when someone that's not in your club runs faster than 10.00 who's ACTUALLY running on GAS?

Just out of curiosity Bob, are all of the cars in the MWG period correct, and would they all qualify under the original gasser rules (minus modern safety requirements)? I'm not overly familiar with your club.

 

Kevin:

I have a hunch you know the answer and just want to get my goat. Maybe not. Either way, let me give you the scoop.

NNNOOO, most are NOT period correct and it bugs the crap out of me. I think is really sucks that there are so many that are not even close. Now the group is more focused on "nostalgic match racing" Whatever, they have truly diminished the quality and vibe by going for quantity, not quality.

In fact, of the "period correct" gassers in the group, a large portion belong to me. Now that is sad. I suppose it offers more attention to the real "period correct" cars, but the others also dilute the impact of the group as it performs.

Yet, I stick with it because I love to race and we do lots of that and even get paid a pittance to do it. It is nice to have twenty+ events on the calendar, too.

Because the focus was on QUALITY, not QUANTITY, the Meltdown Drags will stand as the most period correct event that is held in the area. We still managed to bring in over 50 period correct cars on a day that started out with pouring rain. Not bad for the first attempt. It will only get better.

 

We now return our viewer to the original HUNNERT CAR HEADS UP thread. You know, the one about the HUNNERT CAR HEADS UP

Thank you........

And here's a smiley face so we can all be happy again

 

Had our meeting last night and all involved are very excitred for the HCHU, as always our group will bring a slew of vintage Hot Rods and Drag cars and we are excited as hell for June!!!
The New Koopmeiners & Sons 55 will be at the Heads Up in June for first time out shake down runs!!!

 

Awesome. I can't wait to see it. I'm hoping the Chrome Czar will be there, at least on display if not running.

 

Very cool....I know alot of people that are planning to come...I also know of another 55 that will probably be out there for maiden voyage.....

 

What is the Chrome Czar?

 

it is The Tulley

 

The nailhead-powered FED we're building.

 

So did anyone else see the Street Rod Milestones magazine?

 

Will the rules on parts be the same as the pileup, I for sure will be there but the truck does suffer from some incurable billet infestation. Also, nitrous was used by the Luftwaffa in 43 and 44 on the Messerschmidt, so was oxygen, my old man ran dental gas as they called it at Oswego in '59 or so.