The "un-traditional" of "Traditional" Hotrods

O.K here I go, lately Ive been going to every show I can,and I have been seeing all the "Traditional" cars in the "Suede Palace" and almost every car you look at has a superbell or magnum front axle, when they are triing to build a period car.....many of whom are in pure blood "Traditional" or "old school" Car clubs, I dont get it?!? Dont get me wrong the cars are sweet as hell but Ill walk right past the damn thing if its got one...At the grand national show for example, 50% of the survivor 32's had aftermarket brand new axles on em...People preech about how there is nothing pre-1955 on their car but Oh wait look its got a 2 year old rusty superbell under it, Just my 2 cents....

what bugs you guys?!

 

I not triin to step on anyones toes here, just bugs me!?

 

guess it just bugs you....


deal with it

 

Which ones?

 

I cant remember off the top of my head but, there were a bunch, ill try to find pics.............hold on

 

im just goin to build my coupe the way i want...cause i just dont have the coin to build a "completely period correct" car!

and i could care less as long as im drivin it!

 

What bugs me is guys picking apart cars because they aren't "100% original old parts" when they don't have a car themselves that is built from "100% original old parts".

It's harder than you think to build one that way.

Also... ever notice how the guys who build cars that are spot on "restorations" or "recreations" of cars built 60+ years ago don't go around bagging on guys who have bitchen cars with maybe say... alternators or radials?

Hang out at an event like The Antique Nationals with guys who have "been there and done that"... there's a vibe that no modern day "traditional hot rod show" or "Rat Rod Show" can compare with.

The guys are old... they like old shit... they appreciate craftmanship... and know how it was done back when. They build cars with the "right" parts... then DRIVE THEM... and RACE THEM...

Most of all... the appreciate and respect the work that goes into building a car... and it shows when they are looking other cars over.

I dunno... I think the next new thing is to bag on the guys who bag on guys who bag on the guys.

Sam.

 

If orignal heavy beam deuce axles were easier to come by alot more people would be using them,ive been dropping a axles for my self and there just not the same look as the deuce.

 

That's the problem with "tradition". It doesn't have a born on date or an expiration date. I'm just a young 'un, but I think both of those axle makers go back pretty far. Maybe not as far as a Mor-Drop, but they pre date me. Now, are these offending cars built with "traditional" style, or just "traditional" means? Or maybe mostly "traditional" parts? I'm just gonna guess that the first guy to use a Mor-Drop or a Super-Bell wasn't looking back, but looking forward. So if many followed suit, they set up a "tradition" of using the parts they had then, new tech or old spares. So is it the same tradition if I look for the finest parts i can afford to protect my investment and my ass? What about...
Hmm. I lost my train of thought again... Oh well.

 

so is it really just the AXLES that bug you is this just a way to drive business to you? sounds like a shamless plug if you ask me!!!!!!

this is your signature right!!!!!!
"NastalgicDrop"
Drop axle and spring service,
jordan graham (805)350-0433
You Send em and we Bend em!
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=159022

 

yeah i'd love to search for years to find parts to make mine period correct, or i can put it together with what i have and can afford and attempt to make it as period correct as possible.

 

Hell, I just like cars. I don't care how the owners choose to build them. What bugs me is wondering how many times I'll get blasted for having so called "wrong" parts on my T. Other than that, I'm good.

 

yepers, superbell has been making axles fo 15 or so years, and "traditional" shows like billetproof say nothing visable pre 1964, nothing wrong with new axles,BUT the Guys who cry about how billit sucks,disc brakes suck, and so on, have new shit, such as the axle, thats why it bugs me. And NO it doesnt cost a bunch of money to get old parts compared to new "crap". It just Takes a little more time to track down the parts...............so what, I am good freinds with a lot of oldtime hotrodders and listen to every bit they say,Oh and they actually still build their cars how they were "traditionally" with "old" parts. just my 2 cents, dont post if ya dont like it.

 

Absolutly correct! i agree,original dropped axles are Cheaper and ad character to the vehicle though.point.

 

How can they be rare in Usa? You can get one for 200usd in Sweden and its no problem to find them.. :/

 

another reason they probally bother you so much is because you work with them. after i worked for a year isntalling windows and doors in houses i started noticing all sorts of things wrong with how they were installed in other people's houses.

 

shit your right again!!!!

 

I find it funy how the"hard-core"traditionalists seem to be the guys under 35 with no clue what it was like back in "the day" except from some grainey old B&W photos. They leave all the rust and the last 50 years of crap and dents on their ride and say "thats the way they built them back then." I have a deep respect for the ol'timers in the hobby who laugh at us youngsters and our idea's of whats "traditional". Rust and corrosion are not now or ever have been"traditional". Fake patina? NOT traditional! Rusty FIBERGLASS? Aint no way! The old guys I know all tried to make their cars as clean, and nice as possible. Any dark colored car {maroon,dark green,navy blue,etc.}looks flat black in old photos.So the "its gotta be black primer" argument doesnt hold true. LMAO at a kid the other day, wide whites,red wheels, slammed to the ground,flat black,greased back hair,rolled cuffs, all the "Kulture" stuff, in a goddammed P/T cruiser!

 

Amen

 

Dont get me wrong I HATE RATRODS!!!!! cars were nice then and still should be. Their is a guy here in my town who got a 34 3 window coupe out of a barn that was perfect with perfect shiny black paint,race flatty,pleated interior, the whole 9 yards untouched from the 60's, and he painted it flatt black,not just the body, the damn neer perfect stainless 34 grilleshell too, just so the guy could have his own "ratrod"....................................I HATE EM'!

 

More like 30+ years making axles, but I guess checking facts isn't as important to you as being 100% traditional.


-Ryan

 

guess what? the hotrod "tradition is pre-69 sorry 30 years would be 1976-buncha gay as billit and muscle cars.sorry

 

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...Humm.... I didn't read anything about 1969 there. Maybe I should read it again.





...Nope, nothing.

 

not triing to make anyone pissed off, superbells are great whatever quit wining about how "old skool" you think you are,thought this site was for spreading "tradition" not muscle car fag days. but ill leave em axles for you guys, feast away! bye

 

My post was not to argue when "traditional" began and when it ended, but to point out that you are throwing out incorrect info about a respected company as if it is factual. On a side note, billet (yeah, that is how it is properly spelled) and muscle cars were not the rage in 1976.

-Ryan

 

Samiyam, say it again!

The truest, true blue rodders I know are well into their 60's, can and do fabricate almost every part you can imagine and, I'll be damned, you'll find things like disc brakes and radials on some of these rides. Golly.
Most every car these guys have ever built would be considered trad. styled rods. But, more importantly, they build real-deal HOT RODS...Yep, I've even seen the occasional Super Bell under some of 'em.
Whatever.

 

If you're trying to promote your business here,you obviously went to a different school of business than anyone else.I'd be concerned that a forum of 27,000 potential customers would not take kindly to being insulted by an opinionated mouthpiece.Even if you were correct,what do you hope to accomplish with this spiteful rant. MOST OFTEN,IT IS BETTER TO HAVE AN OPEN MIND,THAN AN OPEN MOUTH!!!!

 

Wanker.

 

I got into this hobby with the help of a father-son hotrod duo. Dad was the mechanic and son did the body work.. It's true Richard, the dad is well seasoned rodder from a very young age and what looks good to his taste is what he gets. He buys aftermarket/sometimes billet pieces without even thinking about being period correct just how fast he can get his ride on the road to enjoy.

I admit I get caught up in the purist stuff in which makes me re-do something in my ride that is perfectly fine but need to change because the purist in me comes out.

Now, I tend to favor ( while still avoiding chainer parts) fast/oem part ordering, slap it on and go mentality. We should be driving our cars not putting them down. my .02

 

I guess you wear 60 year old underwear too