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  1. Ryan
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    Ryan submitted a new blog post:

    The Violence Of Technology

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  2. flamedabone
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    Makes you appreciate that cute little gal who was stuck working in the Fotomat booth all summer long.

    Nice work.

    -Abone.
     
  3. Don't be too hard on yourself. Those colorizations look pretty good from where I'm sitting! Continue the process and reveal what you uncovered!!
     
  4. Tim
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    That’s pretty neat, that slider on the images is very cool.
     
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  5. silent rick
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    pretty cool
     
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  6. flatheadpete
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    Very cool. I love these old shots from times gone by.
     
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  7. Happydaze
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    Looks great but I'll admit I'm confused! Are these from the rolls of undeveloped film?

    Chris
     
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  8. corncobcoupe
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    Imagine....
     
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  10. Ryan
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    No. These are the black and white shots I developed years ago.
     
  12. Tow Truck Tom
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    Thank You Ryan
     
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  13. Squablow
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    What I find most interesting is there appears to be a '50 Studebaker bullet nose made into a pickup using a '37 Stude rear window in one of those pictures.
     
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  14. Michael Ottavi
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    You could have fooled me, they are damn amazing!
     
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  15. RodStRace
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    Thanks for diving into a computer niche that would annoy and frustrate me.
    There are obvious spots where it's failed, but the tech is new and will get better.
    I hope you continue to tweak your program so it can be applied to even more vintage photos.
    I'm curious about run times and how much intervention is needed to get a decent outcome. Is this a push button and get result in under a minute or is it hit a button and get 10 results that need to be judged?
     
  16. Ryan
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    The hitch in the whole damn operation is that I used skin tones and the ghostly white of Bonneville salt as my baseline for color profiles. It’s a flimsy foundation—built on the assumption that every photo will conform to that pristine, sun-bleached desert. So, if I try to colorize an image taken at Muroc, the whole thing goes sideways—the white balance is shot to hell. And if I toss in an image with people of different skin tones? Forget it. The colors start veering off into some twisted, surreal circus.

    To really nail this down, I’d need a mind better versed in the dark arts of color science. I’ve stared at these images for too long, until every shade and hue has started to blur and warp. It’s enough to drive a man to the edge. I need a break before I lose my last grip on reality.

    But here’s the deal: the engine itself works fast. It’ll take mere seconds to churn out a conversion. So, if you’ve got a black-and-white shot you want to see brought into color—even if it’s with my half-baked setup—post it here. I’ll run it through the wringer and see what comes out on the other side.
     
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  17. RodStRace
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    Ryan, once you have cleared your head and can go back into this mess, is it possible to ask it to provide say ten results, judge and rate then use that as learning, as I mentioned in the query?
    As superfastmatt says fail quickly to get to where you succeed.
    EDIT: I'm thinking of those machine learning captchas where you tell it which ones are 'right'. Have 4-6 different 'results' and pick the best ones, reject the worst. Over time, it should get better (Ha!).
    I still have the group meet in the coffee shop on my desktop.
    Syd Mead, H.R. Giger, and M.C. Escher.jpg

    P.S> I have NO idea how to program learning, so I know that saying 'tell it this is better x1000" is doing a lot of heavy lifting, like saying 'paint the chapel ceiling".
     
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  18. Corn Fed
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    I like them. You did a great job.
    Kinda reminds me of my favorite Calvin & Hobbes comic:

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  19. Sharpone
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    With the title I thought it was going to be another great hot rod hooligan story. Good stuff I like the slider - ingenious-
    Oh and reality is over rated.
    Dan
     
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  20. Your colorization story reminds me of the early days of color television.
    My father was a techie in the TV production businees for NBC in Chicago. In 1954, we received one of the very first production color TVs from RCA, the owner of NBC at that time, for our home.

    We all took our turns learning to adjust color and tint controls to get the correct skin tones of our newscasters on the live local news, on Channel 5, of course.
     
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  21. DDDenny
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    I miss those Photomats, there was one about a quarter mile from me, it's a coffee shack now.
     
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  22. Harv
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    This reminds me a little of the thousand-or-so years when we forgot how to make concrete.

    This may be a long shot @Ryan, and it's four years old, but mebbe this guy can be tracked down to help:
    They took my Kodachrome away...so I brought it back - EMULSIVE

    I think that is the ultimate C&H cartoon. I told my kids that story, and they believed it for a few hours. I also tried telling the kids the same story my cousin's told their kids: the only time the ice-cream van plays music is when it has run out of icecream. My wife caught me telling them that one, and I was violently reprimanded :oops:.

    Cheers,
    Harv
     
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  23. Squablow
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    One of my favorites, these are pictures of black and white pictures of a roadster that was built by, and belonged to, a friend of mine's flight instructor. I'd love to see either (or both) in color.

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    I'm going to assume that the weeds are green and maybe slightly brown-ish since they look a bit dry in this pic, those little flower heads are yellow and the guy's jumpsuit is probably blue, at least that's how I always imagined it. The car sure looks black, but every dark colored car looks black in a black and white picture, so I don't know.
     
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  24. hrm2k
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    Sort of HAMB material.
    Me in front of my first car 10 years before it was given to me. It was my Dad’s first brand new car. 1954 Ford Customline, 4 door radio and heater, 239 Y block stick IMG_6476.jpeg
     
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  25. Ryan
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    Sure thing… I’ll colorize these tomorrow…
     
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  26. George
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    Unless there's some known colors it's all guess work. In B&W photo some guys & myself look like we were all wearing the same color pants, but the others were wearing light blue & I was wearing light brown....
     
  27. Ryan
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    Varying levels of success....

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  28. 19Fordy
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    That "sex machine" captures the era, for sure.
     
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  29. Ryan
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    Yeah, I quite like those...
     
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  30. Squablow
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    That's pretty impressive. Another 2 or 3 minutes with the GIMP to make the tires tire-colored again and maybe a couple other color spots changed around and it looks pretty damned close I'd say. Impressive results for so little time spent. This kind of AI work I can get behind.

    colorized 1 reworked.jpg
     
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