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Theres nothing more simpler than a 'T' Engine

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Enbloc, Dec 3, 2005.

  1. Enbloc
    Joined: Sep 27, 2004
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    I'm not to hot on my 'T' engines, what year did they come with the 8 port block?

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  2. The37Kid
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    Sick, Next thing you'll tell us there is Cosworth 4 cam head planed for it.:D P*** along my compliments to the builder!
     
  3. well, where did you find those pics...do you have any more?

    that (appears to be) the infamous 195 hp flat head T, as detailed by Secrets of Speed a while back.

    The block is 26-27 (you can tell that by the two threaded bungs on the back of the block, there are corresponding ears on the hogshead, that allow the block and the hogshead to be bolted together thus increasing the rigidty of the engine unit.)

    the 8 ports come from millling the intake ports out and then welding in the walls that cut the ports in half, thus making 4 intake and 4 exhaust ports.

    The problem that plagues model T engines is that the have 2 intake ports. The firing order for a T is 1-3-4-2, so what happens is that every time a piston number 3 fires, it is drawing the best intake charge, then number 4 intake opens and is drawing out of the same intake port space. the wall between the intake valves reduces the scavenging effect that wants to normally take place.

    Another way to do this is to make a new crank or run the engine backwards.

    if you make a 2 up 2 down engine (Ed Winfield: the greatest cam designer ever) you can change the firing order to 1-3-2-4, this once again eliminates the scavenging effect on the T.

    If you run the engine backwards the intake ports become the exhaust and vis-a-verse

    all this is for the usage of a flathead on T engines only, not applicable to the Overhead Valve Conversions.

    also note that the engine has 2 extra mains that are welded in and non-stock con-rods a****st other mods.


    per chiliphil:

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    home cd: the cars, greatest hits
     
  4. Outback
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    That is grouse,

    I havn't really got into the T 4 bangers I didn't realise people were getting so much out of them!

    Nice pics,

    I see they didn't clean out the water jackets! :)

    Outback

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  5. Dirty Dug
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    My second choise for greatest engine after the flathead V-8. I only wish I had the time and money to build a car around one. I just love four bangers, so simple, so direct. No bull **** there. Pure torch monsters. Two hundred cubes of wonder ....
     
  6. TV
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    They didn't, that ones been ground out and welded up to make one. I have seen A's and B's done that way, and they make gobs of power. Its very hard to make one hold water, the ones I have seen were race motors and ran dry. I still think their cool.--TV PS, Look close at the pick of the top of the block and I think you can see a crack in the port below the valve seat.
     
  7. C'mon Clark - where DID you find THOSE!!!
    I know you're still hankering after a T and there's a spare engine with a 27 block in my garage with your name on it!
    Phil
     
  8. Enbloc
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    Yes, this is the infamous one hp per cubic inch 'T' flathead by Kirk Wright.

    This Ardun head is sitting next to it on the table.

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    I say its an Ardun, but this thing has been machined for a 'T' not an 'A/B'. A Norm Frick creation?
     
  9. The37Kid
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    Could someone explain why the valve guides in the ports are so large? I'm sure this is a work in progress and that J B Weld stuff will get blended in tho the porting job, but still the guides are huge. It will take some time put I'll post photos of a Ford Factory cutaway T block that is stashed away in the ba*****t. If anyone wants a starter block I'll make ya a great Christmas deal on this one!:D
     

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  10. i decided to fire up my laptop early, so i am sitting at the table eating cold hawaiian pizza, drinking a gl*** of milk, and now nursing wood. dammit.

    off to look at a mg td, have a great day...
     
  11. Enbloc
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    Hey Bob,

    Does that Christmas special come with a "diamond" five bearing crank?
     
  12. That T engine is my kind of thing, I really like the creative thinking behind that! It really gets you thinking doesnt it? Anyone know how they would have welded the dividers in as well as the bearing webs for the 5 main crank?

    I know that there is an awful amount of time and money in this kind of thing but it must be so rewarding to design and build an engine such as this. Does anyone know where I can get further information or pics on this engine or possibly contact details for the builder/owner?

    Best regards,
    Greg Stokes
    hopup32ford@hotmail.com
     
  13. Dirty Dug
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    Do you mean, there is nothing more simple than a 'T' engine? I don't know. Maybe you could tell us.
     
  14. Enbloc
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    Just noticed some details about the head.

    The Webers do not line up with the intake ports atall, the hole in the adaptor most be at a 45 degree angle.

    The other is the valves are the same size thats wrong as well.
     
  15. Flatdog
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    Yes it is Norns work. He is one of a kind.
     
  16. Flatdog
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    BTTT,more people need to see some real hot rodding.
     
  17. Enbloc
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    Thanks Flatdog...!
     
  18. seymour
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  19. Derek Mitchell
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    Ditto. :D


    I want one.

    Wonder how nice Santa will be to me this year. :cool:
     

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