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Think i found my old stolen caddy...now what?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by DIRTYT, Mar 23, 2005.

  1. Aaron51chevy
    Joined: Jan 9, 2005
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    Hey Dirty,
    If ya ever want to get the little bastard (that is of course once you find out it is your car) I'll donate my time. That kind of shit really ticks me off. Wonder how good of paint job that is and if your flames are still underneath that black. Call the cops, get the vin run, if you still have the title and haven't signed it, the car is still yours.
     
  2. Flathead Youngin'
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    If you're implicated, you'd better put your personal desires aside and let the cops do their thing.... 2cents!


    You'd really have a lot more time to think about your ole' ride when you convicted of something you didn't do!
     
  3. zman
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    call them NOW... do not delay....
     
  4. This is a prime example why you should always be cool with the cops and if possible have atleast one whom you can call on in need.

    I had a VW bus stolen when I was in high school. it was a bit unusual and I had people all over looking for it. it ended up turning up in San Diego. I called a buddy of minesd dad who was a cop and he went down there with me. when we got there it was for sure my bus but some hack had tried to change the vin number.

    We called the cops and when they showed up we explained what went on and how I could proove it was my stolen bus. My buddies dad talked with them for a while and convinsed them that i was right. Long story short the cops ended up busting the guy with the bus. turned out he was doing this for a living. I eventually got my bus back after they had it in impound for a month do to the court case.
     
  5. Circus Bear
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    I had a friend in Atlanta have his karmen ghia stolen nad then saw it parked fully restored at a grocery store 5 year later. he reconized the custom front air vents he made for it. took a snapshot of the vin and license late. Car was returned to him with about 5k invested in it. It's good to hear a happy ending to a cat theft story. Thiefs should be dragged by the cars they steal.

    Dave
     
  6. GO-rilla
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    Burn his house, it's a fair trade as long is your sure she was yours.
     
  7. Kilroy
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    Dude, he's on to you..

    The wheels of justice can be slow. Don't expect an immediate response from the cops and in the mean time I bet he loses that thing. Find out where he lives by any means necessary and keep an eye on that car.

    One instance in which the wheels of justice won't be slow though is if you do anything to this dork. They'll have you hog tied faster than you can say 'stole caddy.'
     
  8. HoldFast
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    by the sound of that email I'd say someone pointed him to this thread. He knows it's you and he's gonna move the car.

    Get up and get there. It's yours.

    Take a key. And take someone with you. Or go to the local PD and have them escort you to the car so you can check it out. If it's not yours, you'll look like a fool but at least you'll know.

    If this kid is friends with the people you traded with. The title never got transfered..just to many loops. It's got to be yours. And since you never really signed over the slip..it's your car still.

    people need to start figuring out that stealing hotrods/classics is a bad idea. Especially if you keep them in one piece and in the same country you stole them. I freakin hate theives. If he was by me I'd tell you to get me a key and I'd go down there myself. Nothing wrong with just turning a key. Oh..officer I thought it was my car....apparently it is.
     
  9. GO-rilla
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    Hate to highjack but did that one ol' boy find his 409 car?
     
  10. DIRTYT
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    well i just got off the phone with the detective. i emailed him pictures and things to look for that make the car unique. i didnt relize i did so much little shit to that car haha. any way he said we should know something by the end of next week. i was kinda upset at that cause i want to know now damnit! he has to have plates on this thing cause he has been driving it all around i guess. so some how if it is mine he titled it. and i dont think ill be the one to get it back. i did sign the title over but the guy just never transferd it. but we will see. that was the first time i talked o a cop and he wasnt a dick head to me:D
     
  11. outkast
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    if you had him sign an agreement about when the bike is paid off then he gets the title your ok to go get either the money owed or the bike back but without any proof of the deal made i dont know what you will get in return
     
  12. hotrodladycrusr
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    cuz you weren't a "dickhead" to him. Sounds like you have "matured" over the years.:D

    If the insurance company paid off the guy that you sold it to, the insurance company will get the car back from the police. Plain and simple. When the insurance company pays off on a car they require the title from the owner so even if the guy hadn't regisitered the car in his name yet, the insurance company would have had him sign the title over to them before they would cut him a check for the loss.
    Ask me how I know this. :eek:

    After receiving a stolen and recovered car back, insurance companys sell those cars, either outright if they have a quick/known interested party (like previous owner or insurance company employee), at auction or to a scrapyard if the car has been totaled. I have a number of girlfriends who work in the claims dept at State Farm who are always buying recovered cars from State Farm for pennies on the dollar so to speak.
     
  13. Arthur
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    Well,yeah,he was being a dickhead. You show up with a reasonable amount of evidence about a stolen car may have been found and how to prove it is stolen,and he tells you to check back next week. In other words,"Don't call us,we'll call you. When we get around to it. IF we get around to it." You even know the guys name. The defective detective could have gotten on to DMV right then to check the resistration history of the car and compare it to your VIN numbers. The fact that he didn't do it only proves he is jerking your around. These bastards need to learn that THEY work for the public,and that they either need to do their bleeping jobs or have their asses put out on the streets where they will have to do actual work. This ain't digging in clay with a shovel. It's a few strokes on a keyboard,and meeting a black and white at the guys house so they can check it out.

    Meanwhile the car is being stripped for parts and dumped somwhere and set on fire to remove evidence.
     
  14. Spitfire1776
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    Don't trust cops. You know how many times people have tried doing the "right thing", and it ended up not being so. The most I would do, on the legal side is simply report that you think so an so may have a stolen car and leave it alone. It ain't gonna clear as being a suspect in the original stealing. And if you think that the car will miraculously end up in your hands. Think again, it'll just end up in a government auction, and probably go to some idiot or asshole who sells it for scrap.

    I bet the kid who has it now, had nothing to do with its original stealing. A better bet the guy that traded it did. Why would you wait a week to transfer a title, and the car is miraculously stolen in that week. By which no a state of limbo is created, because though I'm sure he filed home owners, you would have to report it stolen in your name. And even more why would one place suspicion on the person one just got it, if for no better reason than intimidation. As such, you really have no way of getting it back. If the kids happy with, and you feel confidnet he didn't steal it, leave him have his little piece of joy in life.

    Don't do the ass that accused you of stealing it any favors is what I guess I'm trying to say.
     
  15. Mutt
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    Wow, Arthur, you sound like you really know what you're talking about!! How long were you a cop? Must have been on the Auto Theft Squad, too?

    I'll bet you dropped everything when you got a phone call about a three year old theft case, because you knew you worked for the public, and didn't want to go back on the streets and do actual work, right? What if ANOTHER call comes in when you hang up from the first hot lead? Which one do you follow? The newest one IS the hottest lead though, so you should follow THAT one, right?

    Did you call SWAT to go with you to check the information, or just a "black and white"? Why would you call a uniform patrol car in the first place? Were you scared? Did you say things like "Book 'em Danno", and "Just the facts, ma'am"?

    I'll bet you had all of the information on every stolen car right at your fingertips, just waiting for someone to call, because you had nothing else to do, right? And if you were working on a report from an hour ago, you would drop that one for one three years old? Cool! You really know what you're talking about, don't you? That's exciting....:p :rolleyes:


    Mutt
     
  16. Speaking of stolen cars...

    I woke up at 2AM after hearing a car speed off one morning about 6 months ago. I ran out front and my 2000 Chevy pickup was GONE.

    I panicked... called 911... the cops were there in like one minute. (small town)

    They said they set up a parameter... and were on the lookout...

    They sped off... and then... towards the end of my block... just around the corner, I see the flash of bright lights going crazy!

    Then... BAM... it hit me...

    I had driven my truck down to my neighbors that afternoon to pick up a motorcycle I had bought from him... and left my truck there.

    DOPE!

    So I walk down there... tail between my legs... and say "yep! That's it!"

    "Uh, officer, I think I know how it got there... uh, er... um, uh... I loaned my truck to my brother, who is friends with Evan, the guy who lives here... and he probably just left it there and got a ride to the airport from Evan"

    Pure bull shit... but I figured I wouldn't look as stupid if he believed my story.

    He then says "Well, lets ask Evan!"

    "Uh, er...um, uh... I dddddon't think we need to wake him up... I'm, uh... pretty sure that's what happened..."

    "No, I think we need to wake Evan up and ASK HIM!" the cop says...

    Then I just say "No, I;d hate to wake him up... I'll just get my other,,, uh, keys... and bring my truck home... lookm it's unlocked and nobody tampered with the ignition... everything is fine"

    "are you sure?"

    Yea......... I'm sure"


    Damn cops are SMART!

    Sam.
     
  17. Arthur
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    >>
     
  18. Mutt
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  19. Don't mess with Mutt---he'll sic his cats on ya! :eek:
     
  20. DIRTYT
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    well this post took longer then normal to go to shit. why dont u two just beat each other with some police issue night sticks. some one delete this post.
     
  21. Mutt
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    My sincere apologies.

    Mutt
     
  22. Fatchuk
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    Hey I think you were dead on Mutt...there was absolutly no reason to come on this thread and rat the cops in general...he said the guy was nice to him and is checking it out....sounds like your,your own worst enemy Art....be one hellva country if we didn't have em and for the most part they stick their knecks on the line every day and can't even be sure who will help them when push comes to shove....you need a course on attitutude dude.......fatchuk
     
  23. Nads
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    Sam, that's so funny. I've been there.

    This place I used to work at had a Racetrac gas station next door where I used to buy my morning coffee. Usually I'd park in front of my work and walk to the gas station. Well this one morning I changed my routine one little smidge, I parked at the gas station and walked back to my job and realized my car had been stolen.
    And yes, I called the cops.
    A few minutes later one of my co-workers came in and told me my car was parked next door.

    I felt like a complete idjit.
     
  24. Two questions...

    If you traded your Cadillac to another guy for another car then you are no longer the owner of the Cadillac, isn't that correct? You are the owner of the car recieved in trade. The Cadillac may have fallen down the Rabbit Hole after you made the trade but that's someone else's problem, isn't it?

    This whole thread seems ethically challanged. Sorry boys.
     
  25. Arthur
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  26. Nads
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    Hey Arthur, quit being a whiny bitch.
     
  27. Arthur
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    >>[Fatchuk]Hey I think you were dead on Mutt...there was absolutly no reason to come on this thread and rat the cops in general...he said the guy was nice to him and is checking it out...<<

    He also said the cop told him they would get in touch with him in two weeks. We have a stolen car,two suspects (the guy who started this thread is one,the guy with the car now is another),fairly credible reports of the stolen car still being in the same city as both of the suspects AND the cop,yet this bozo can't get off his ass to even run a DMV check to see if it has been registered in a new name after being stolen? Maybe you think that is "serving the public",but I see it more as "servicing the public". What the hell is this auto theft squad yahoo getting paid for if not to go after hot leads? Or at least to do the minimum amount of checking to see if there has actually been a theft report and the car reregistereed after being reported stolen.

    >>.sounds like your,your own worst enemy Art....be one hellva country if we didn't have em and for the most part they stick their knecks on the line every day and can't even be sure who will help them when push comes to shove....<<

    I damn sure ain't going to help any of them. And as for them "protecting us" goes,there are a HELL of a lot more innocent citizens killed by cops every year than they are cops killed. Being a firefighter is a lot more dangerous job.

    MY experiences with them is that I've had too many of them abuse their authority and even steal from me. I've been held at gunpoint for suspiscion of murder "because I matched the description of the murder suspect",when he was 6 inches taller,10 years younger,and had different colored hair and a police arrest record with his photo and they were looking for him by name. I know this because I read of his arrest a couple of days later. I've been given speeding tickets for 37mph in a 35 mph zone and told that if I didn't like it,I should "sell your Harley and buy a Japanese motorcycle." I got spreadeagled across a patrol car hood one night in Denver for stopping a patrol sgt's car to tell him I had just seen somebody take out the screen and climb in the rear window of a apartment at 2AM. The cops response to my tip? "How do you know he was breaking in? Maybe he just lost his keys and it was his apartment?".

    I was even told to "stay out of police business in the future or you will be arrested" for stopping a armed robbery at a liquor store out in Denver one night by knocking the guy out when I walked in behind him and he turned around,and then sitting there to watch him while the owners wife called the DPD and we waited over 20 minutes for them to show up. They ran warrants on ME,and put me up against the wall for a pat down before warning me to never do this again.

    And that is just the high spots that doesn't inlcude crap like stopping me with drawn guns for no reason at all other than "We can".

    >>you need a course on attitutude dude.......fatchuk[/QUOTE]<<

    Right. And maybe I just know them better than you do? Yeah,I have known a few decent cops. Most quit in disgust after just a couple of years.

    Mutt is most likely a retired cop,and he stuck his nose in and started getting personal with me when I said the cop wasn't doing his job. Nobody had addressed him up to this point,and nobody on this thread had gotten personal and insulting with anybody else before he stuck his nose in.
     
  28. Arthur
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    Hey,Nads,suck about 7 miles of diseased dick.
     
  29. Circus Bear
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    Wow this'll help keep everyone on topic.
     
  30. SnoDawg
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    Back to original Post
    hey Dirty Talk to a Lawyer see where you stand. I like them ol caddys and hate theves but you need to work the system to make the system work for you.
    Good luck dude I hope you get your car back.

    Dawg
     

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