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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by speedyshark, Feb 16, 2009.

  1. speedyshark
    Joined: Dec 15, 2008
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    Hey guys thought I would ask to see what you guys think. I have a chance to get into a 6,500sqf shop right off hwy I.H.35 in Selma Tx (right outside San Antonio) The thing is it is metal shop no insulation.I guess that can be fixed so it won't get to hot , but also has asphalt floors. The ceilings are high like 20ft and has a fenced yard in back. There is a framed in area with a/c to set up office show room and floor is also ashpalt. My dad has a bussniss doing power washing and some lawn matinace needs more room so we found this area. I was going to do the rod thing out of it as a "hobbie side-thing" and sell used and new parts. Will have an area for guys to bring things in on consinment and offer to put it on E-bay as well. Wanting to offer bike oil changes and hot rod work. Just not sure on the asphalt thing, pulling engins, jacking up cars, and rolling engins around on stands. I can put a small pad in to pull the engins just not sure on the rest. The shop is huge and location great so thought I would ask what you all think? Has anyone worked on ashalt floors and how did it work out?

    It is right nextdoor to a shop that does Truck lifts and acsseseries. So would kind of go together.
     
  2. overkillphil
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    Not sure how hot it gets there, but you can't put any real weight here on asphalt during the summer here. Sink City
     
  3. smarg
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    sounds good to me
     
  4. Flynn's_57
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    Just drink plenty of water when it's hot, passing out from dehydration can be deadly in TX I'd think,
    (if you are there by yourself I'd time that to an hourly thing; AND REMEMBER!! IF IT'S NOT WATER, IT'S HURTING YOU, NOT HELPING!!)

    And an asphalt floor is better than a dirt one, right?

    Seriously though, the most important thing there is the thickness of the asphalt, not what it is made out of. I will say it's rather terrifying when your workspace floor cracks under the weight of safety-jacks and your vehicle develops an "unsightly lean" while you are underneath it.

    Bottom line? Anything can work if you're motivated enough and willing to designate (and reinforce) "hi-weight area's" if the floor is indeed too thin.
     
  5. speedyshark
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    Well in summer around high 90's outside. I was thinking of putting in insulation and has a big exhaust fan that needs motor, so with insulation and ventilation should keep the inside around high 80's or so? Just wondering on everyday use on asphalt. I was going to use plates under any safety jacks. Just don't want the engine not be able to roll around.
     
  6. smarg
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    my shop has no insulation the summers get hot but not to bad and i do drink plenty of water cause the sky is big in texas
     
  7. HR Classic Cars
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    Your temperature idea is wrong, insulation and no A/C doesn't do much.. the fan will make it feel cooler to you because your sweat evaporates quicker, but it won't be any cooler. Expect it to be about 10 degrees hotter inside then outside (at least).

    The asphalt is a no go.. way to dangerous, if you put any weight on it in the summer heat it will sink in quickly. So don't leave an engine on a stand overnight or put a car on stands because they will sink in. Definatly NEVER get under a car that is on stands on an asphalt floor.
     
  8. Von Rigg Fink
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    if theres something wrong with the floor...its the asphalt

    or maybe the way to say it..is ..if theres something wrong with the pavement..its the asses fault
     
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  9. smarg
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    HR classic cars, well struck
     
  10. speedyshark
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    I guess I could just put plates or 3/4" plywood under any thing that will stand. You are right about the hot asphalt and why I am wondering about rolling things around.
     
  11. Lucky667
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    Have you checked to see what the annual property tax is? Mine is too high in Comal county.
    Good Luck.

    Lucky667
     
  12. speedyshark
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    Will be renting for now.
     
  13. Lucky667
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    Rent? Great. After a few months you will have all of your answers from experience. If asphalt is very smooth it will be fine. It will not get hot inside. Fuel & oil spills will make the asphalt very soft. Insulation will cost too much on a rented building, big fans help.
    Good Luck.

    Lucky667
     
  14. What is the going rate on a building like that, monthly rent, or to buy?

    I'm collecting info for my relocation.

    There must be different mixes of asphalt through the years. I worked on my stuff in the street 20+ years ago, on streets laid 20 years before, but a floorjack on my 5 year old redone street sinks in on a hot day.
     
  15. speedyshark
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    Can't say but getting a hell of a deal price wise. Lets just say it is a lot less than if it was at .35 sqft
     
  16. Retro Jim
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    Sounds like a good deal for what you are goimg to use it for . I would invest in some big floor fans and ceiling fans to draw the heat out of the inside roof area .
    Try it out for a few months and if you and your Dad think this will be the right place , ask the owner about chipping in some money to put some concrete in a small area where you will be doing the heavy work and leave the rest alone . At least that would be safe for the heavy work and fuel spills ! As for showroom & office space , carpet is cheap and will work fine !
    I would have the blacktop sealed before I went in . That way it will help from the oils and crud soaking into the floor ! Things will roll better to on a cealed floor !
    Congrads on your new business and location ! GOOD LUCK ! :D
     
  17. crapshoot
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    Sorry man but insulation WILL cool the place down my shop is well insulated and it stays at least 15 degrees less than outside in the summer with no AC. mind ya that i don't live in Texas and Texans might have a different idea of proper insulation. but if done right it will be cooler than without.
     

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