about 6 weeks ago enjenjo was contacted by a guy that claimed to have purchased a copy of our 9" Ford info from Ebay. I did a little bit of investigating, and could see from the item description(see it here) that it would appear that alot of the same info that was on the page was described in the auction. I figured that I should dig into this a little deeper just to be safe on my part. I placed a bid on one. I ended up paying $7.00 for the item. I paid for it right after the auction ended. I then waited for it to come. After having asked twice about shipment I was told that I should have got it some time ago. I informed him I hadn't received it. He then shipped me a copy this week. I got it in my hand today. It is a exact copy of my page minus the credits, disclaimer and copyright. It even includes the typos and images that I created to make some of the descriptions easier to understand. The rear end dimension graphic was created with Autocad and exported to BMP and converted to jpeg for the site. I have all copies of those. I have said to a couple of people that I would give him the benefit of the doubt in that it would be possible to create a document with all the words exactly the same as it is a narrow range topic, but I don't see how he could create the images and make them like mine. I set down tonight to go through all his auctions since he got his Ebay account in Apr 20, 2003. I found that out of 180 or so feedback replies there were 36 auctions of this item. Some of them are dutch auctions selling 2 at a time. Figuring a total I found that he has sold a total of $237.48 worth of my time and energy. I am so pissed about this. I can't believe that someone would do such a thing. Looking through his feedback it would appear that he has about 6-8 documents from different sites that he is selling. There is a considerable amount of negetive feedback about his selling documents off websites. You can see it here. He seems to have problems with shipping too. I have submitted to Ebay a request for removal of the current auctions as suspension of his sellers account. I will see what happens as time goes by. So what would you do in this situation?
If you were a photographer you'd sue the shit right out of his pants! That really sucks though man, people profiting off of your crud sucks, not that I've ever had it happen to me. Good luck man! -peter
actually I have ground to do this on now. However the amount of the transactions is to small to make it worth it. He is in Florida so I would have to file there. It would be a small claim and ever if I won I would have to make him pay. It is only $238 so it would cost more to make right than it would to make his life a bitch for a while. Unforunately for him I am in the middle of a seperation from my wife. So I have a lot of unvented frustration. So I have to energy to channel it into getting even with him.
....so, ya got nuthin to loose, right? I'd e-mail this sucker and tell him he owes me $238. I'd also mention I have a brother that's a hot shot lawyer who'll sue his ass for copywright infringement at no cost to me at all. That ought stop the bullshit, even if he doesn't send the money. Either way, it'd be a fun "project". Everytime I had a thought about the ex-missus screwin me outa half the stuff I own, I'd conjur up an image of this dirtball sweatin the phone and doorbell, thinking it's your brother/lawyer coming with a summons! MUWAHAHAhahaha! I'm feelin better already, aren't you? Then, I might see about arranging a date between your ex and the dirtball. Maybe they deserve each other.
The very first thing I'd do is leave feedback that states where the real source of his info came from and a link so future buyers could find it for free. Then, I'd get his ebay privlages revoked. Next to last, I'd talk to a copyright lawer. And last, I'd convert your site to a flash site so that theives can't directly copy your info. They can still print it, but they can't select it or copy it. Good luck. Being right or righteous isn't easy.
First, I'd tell him that he owes me $238 at minimum...depending on what you did during the time he was selling your copyrighted property, he could owe you for what you weren't able to sell, too. If he didn't pay up, I'd sue him. There's no way you could lose, copyright law stuff like this is completely open-and-shut.
According to his listing he is in Fairport, NY; just outside Rottenchester. An easy drive to go and kick some ass; take your mind off the other problem.
Its funny you mention that. I went back and looked at the info that Ebay has on file. It lists a Florida address and phone number. The envolope I have has a New York address and postal stamp on it though.
[ QUOTE ] The very first thing I'd do is leave feedback that states where the real source of his info came from and a link so future buyers could find it for free. [/ QUOTE ] I did leave feedback to that effect. If you look at his most recent feedback complaint that is me.
Not that I'm a copyright lawyer, but I have learned a few things in the last couple of years. Once you write it down it's your intellectual property. Filing with the copyright office isn't required, but in the case of a book it can help. Other small thing is, there are no copyrights on titles. So if you want to write another "Gone With the Wind" you can. You'd probably get sued by the Mitchell family, but for the most part they'd be out of luck unless they got a sympathetic judge. Once that happens, all bets are off. Not that I've ever been the victim of a sympathetic judge although Sweetie thought it was strange once when the suee knew the judge personally and she lost a judgement that looked pretty clear cut to us and others. Some families, Mitchel, Elvis et al pursue copyright infringements pretty hard, but like I said, titles are fair game. Just don't write your novel in the Civil War era and it oughta be ok. Besides, I like the title, "The Life and Times of a Fatcat" way better. It would probably sell a million or so with all the elections we have coming up....
I think we need someone with SPAM capabilities...lets all bid on these items and then not pay. I have a perfect feedback rating, one asshole who responds negatively to my non-paying bid for 237 dollars won't harm me much...your thoughts? Your whole story pisses me off...I wanna help!
[ QUOTE ] So give US his email addy........ [/ QUOTE ] Naa.. i don't think that would help matters. Upon further research it would appear that he has recently moved to New York In one email I got from him with a work email address. It lists a New York area code for his cell phone. All the online phone databases have him listed in Florida.
What a fuckin' scumbag.It seems to me that there is more than one party involved if it got shipped to you from NY and the guy is from FL. What's up with Florida? I think someone should stab his tires. Billy
Just emailed one of the guys that bought from him and let him know it was ripped off from your site. Now just do it to a few others and his feedback might suffer a bit. john
if you want to know where the dude comes from, and his ISP hasnt blocked this functionality... i believe you can type this is a DOS shell: finger the_dudes_email_address you will be able to find out where he is coming from... people were using macros to fuck up connections, the ISP would return information everytime there was a query. reason why im not sure it still works, havent had to use it in a long time.
Complaint : Sold me pages printed from MustangII.com - Is this legal? Response by informtheworld2000 - Attention Competitors: I report all bogus comments to EBAY..... Neutral : Somewhat misleading - this info looks like it came straight off internet. obviously other people have noticed this too. What a moron. I hope you bend him over, so to speak LOL
Just go back in to the feed back and tell all what a scum bag he is and where to get the info for free,we all like free. john ps I have mailed 3 and told them.
[ QUOTE ] According to his listing he is in Fairport, NY; just outside Rottenchester. [/ QUOTE ] Give me his name & address
[ QUOTE ] Give me his name & address [/ QUOTE ] The address I have is a Florida address and the cell number I have is a New York number. So I am guessing he has moved recently
[ QUOTE ] and the cell number I have is a New York number. [/ QUOTE ] I wonder if reverse phone directories work for cell phones? Phone number search
Just sent the following inquiry to him via ebay: Could you please clarify for me the difference between what you are selling and the information available free from enjenjo.com? I have been told that what you are selling is essentially a printed copy of their site. I don't want to spend money on something I can get for free. Understand, this is not an accusation, just an honest inquiry. If your information is better and/or different than theirs, it may be of interest to me. Thanks for your help. So yeah, I played nice with the guy a little...but hopefully the old adage about more flies with honey will help. I'll be curious to see how he responds, and will be sure to post it here.
Go to eBay. Click on "help" in the top toolbar. Type: VeRO into the Search field. When the links show up click on the first one and then go through the process to register your info in eBay's Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) Program: eBay's Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) Program: eBay's VeRO Program was developed to facilitate cooperation between eBay and rights owners protecting their intellectual property rights. Highlights of the program include: -expeditious removal of listings reported to eBay by over 5,000 VeRO Program participants; -specific, detailed warnings designed to deter the listing of potentially infringing items before a listing is posted on eBay; -voluntary daily monitoring and removal by eBay of listings offering potentially counterfeit or otherwise infringing items; -voluntary daily monitoring and removal by eBay of listings that violate eBay policies designed to prevent the listing of infringing items on eBay; -ability to save searches and have the results emailed to you through Favorite Searches; -suspension of repeat offenders; -continuing efforts to identify and prevent previously suspended users from reregistering for eBay; and cooperation with rights owners seeking personal information on alleged infringers.
The recording industry has 270 people that downloaded music whom they are going to run through a ringer for thousands of dollars per person for Copyright infringement. If those "Fat Cats" can do it, YOU (the little guy) should be able to make an example of this guy.
also it might be worth your while to discuss this problem with the post office, or the office of the postmaster general as he has used the mails to send this stolen information making this possibly a case of mail fraud.. i would check that out, as i dont think you can use the mails to profit from copyrighted material... if that is the case his life will be a living hell.... you may never see a dime, but he will be at the end of a long noose. bob
There is a thing here in Canada called "theft of communications" that would cover something like that. Is there something similar stateside?? This covers any sort of theft of website material, as well as using info gleaned from things like police scanners, and mail theft. check into it and sue his ass!!
There are two current winners for this auction, did someone say somewhere that they were sent e-mails warning them? There's still time for them to back out of the auction and go to enjenjo.com.....
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