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This is "TRADITIONAL"...WOW.....

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Jeff Norwell, Jan 13, 2004.

  1. Boy! That's a nice truck...too nice. Just a little too shiney for my liking. The level of detail is just too high for a traditional hot rod. That thing is more of a show boat.
     
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    Maybe but many of those cars in the little pages had incredible attention to detail. The zoomies look wrong from about every angle, like some wierd wings set to make the truck take off.

    Why not build the truck as true to the over-all theme as possible. Building the best possible hot rod...

    That's what almost all of those little pages cars were trying to do.

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    true, but maybe not, what I was trying to say was that a lot of "traditional" cars that have been built lately try to hard to fit into one category or era, like that rod is "totally 1951" or "east-coast". But when you look at just the pics in those old magazines they're not as easily definable, just like this one, it's kind of a mix 'n match of different influences, and as someone stated, the zoomies are inspired by a rod from the builder's youth, so yes, that's how some did it, yet those setups are being labeled as incorrect by todays 'traditional' rodders.
     
  3. MrGasser
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    That truck is an exact clone of a truck that was on the cover of a little book, I think...Car Craft 1956,...talked to the owner at Indy, said he fell in love with it when the magazine first came out, had a chance to buy it when he was 16, but him and his brother just couldn't get enough cash together, he kept tabs on it for years, then it dissappeared around 1970.

    Said he started collecting parts for the clone 20 years ago.

    I think that makes it, "traditional", and "period correct"!!!
     
  4. Kilroy
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    For the record, I never intended to dredge up the Traditional debate.

    I just hate the zoomies, traditional or not. I think they belong on dragsters not street driven hot rods. Especially one as nicely put together as the red truck.
     
  5. Scrub
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    "...and as someone stated, the zoomies are inspired by a rod from the builder's youth, so yes, that's how some did it, yet those setups are being labeled as incorrect by todays 'traditional' rodders. "



    EXACTLY! I read the article, loved the zoomies and the fenders. The truck was based on one that he tried to buy in '66, but his brother knocked it and the seller decided not to let him buy it. Those zoomies have more factual background than some bedside pipes that, today, some think would "make it" period correct. I think the lack of bed pipes gives it a sleeker look anyway. Those fenders are absolutely killer too!
     
  6. jdubbya
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    I just hate the zoomies, traditional or not. I think they belong on dragsters not street driven hot rods. Especially one as nicely put together as the red truck.

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    To each, his own!
     
  7. Jeff Norwell
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    [ QUOTE ]
    For the record, I never intended to dredge up the Traditional debate.

    Aww c'mon Phil.let's stir up the ****pot a little more!! [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  8. SKR8PN
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    Some of you guys,would piss and moan,if they was gonna hang you with a NEW rope...........

     
  9. Kilroy
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    Some of you guys,would piss and moan,if they was gonna hang you with a NEW rope...........

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    OF course I'd complain!!! I'd complain loud and often and to whomever would listen.

    I'd say; "Don't ****ing hang ME! I'm to purty to die! Your daughters all need lovin' and I'm the only man'can do't right! Lordy don't hang ME!"

    The newness of the rope would be irrelovent!...

    Just like those zoomies.
     
  10. quickrod
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    ...now phil won't sleep cause the "zoomie" mans coming to get him! [​IMG]way kool peice,best thing in the mag this month!
     
  11. John B
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    This truck is traditional in my book. Maybe in some parts of the country they didn't do zoomies in the mid 60s. Obviously in Hamilton,Oh. they did. If he's cloning a truck from that area and that time, then how is it not right?

    From the article I read in the Styleline, the original truck spent quite a bit of time on the dragstrip. So there was a method to their madness.
     
  12. G V Gordon
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    John B, Good point. Different parts of the country had way different styles at different times. My side rail pipe comment was a personal preferance for that type of truck but it is way cool whe way it is and the important thing is, hopefully, he could give a damn what we think since he built it the way he wanted it. [​IMG]
     
  13. Garry Carter
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    I think you guys are stumbling around, blinded by the notion that the builder was attempting to re-create the look of a particular era or style.

    I think it's probably more accurate -- and much fairer to the guy who did such great work -- to view this little truck as both an acknowledgement of what influenced the builder, and how he's used those influences to create something entirely new.

    This ain't a copy of anything. It's a fabulous hotrod -- one any of us would love to have.
     
  14. Dumb***es!
    Brush has excellent taste and aparently MrG***er is the only other one here that even read the article. The truck is a near clone of an old rod that I have drooled over for years in a couple of my old magazines. Very nice job building it.I dig that truck.

    How do you like me when I am NOT drinking?! Hahaha Really speak my mind then...............
     
  15. av8
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    Handsome truck! Not a fan of zoomies on a streeter, but in combination with the rollbar they give it some interesting at***ude.

    BTW, the notion that high-quality driven and raced hot rods were uncommon back in the Day is very wrong headed, and it's also disrespectful of many of the old guys. Build quality was an expression of one's skills.

    Remember: Primer was a step in the journey, not the destination.

     
  16. Hot Rod To Hell
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    If it wasn't for the Zoomies that truck would look exactly like every other truck built by a "I'm 30 and want to act like I was alive and hot roddin in the 50's" type... This one actually LOOKS tough... not gay like all the rest.
     
  17. Kilroy
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    Sorry but out here, every rat rod has lime-fires or zoomies...

    Maybe that's why I think they're gay. It makes me think someones trying too hard to look cool and/or fast. They're for "Gook-Wagons" and tractor-pulls....

    Mike said it best. Cars that made it to the little pages were built well, or at least the builder was trying. They weren't trying to build 'em "Just like the 50's Bro!" They were trying to build the best hot rod they could.

    Back to the truck. It's a *****in truck. I like everything about it EXCEPT the zoomies. I don't care if it's a clone or if it's Traditional or if you all think it's the greatest example of Hot Rodding to ever roll on round tires. I don't think the zoomies go with the over-all package. (there, I hope I cleared that up)

    But it's fun to talk about an actual car for once so carry on...
     
  18. hatch
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    If we were all building todays traditional cars of the future, we would be building toyotas.
     
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    I'm not usually crazy about red, but DAMN, that looks good!

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    That's not just red it's "Re-sale Red!!!"
    I like the zoomies myself. Although a bunch of snakes would be cool to da bone.
     
  20. Jkustom
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    That's not just red it's "Re-sale Red!!!"
    I like the zoomies myself. Although a bunch of snakes would be cool to da bone.

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    That reminds me, a couple years ago I was making flyers for one of my bands shows, and at the copy place they had all the different colors you could choose from... The one I remember best was "re-entry red"... Not quite sure what that meant.... -J.
     
  21. Lowlife
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    The original.
     

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  22. Lowlife
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  23. Jeff Norwell
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    TA DA!!!!! And thats the end of the story [​IMG]
     
  24. Fraz
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  25. 286merc
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    A 292 "bored and stroked to 301" duh. Its a bored 292 period.
    Anyway, a Y block in a truck needs stacks altho those zoomies do fit the image well.
     
  26. plmczy
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    The only thing that I didn't like about the truck was the lack of rear fenders. In my opinion it looks like something is missing with the flow from the front to back. I kinda like the zoomies but not straight up like that. I think a set of limefires would be kool or belly burners. That what ****s about liking so many different things it's hard to decide what you want. I never knew that was a style running fronts but no backs. Learn something new everyday. later plmczy
     
  27. Scotch
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    I helped out on the Street Rodder photo shoot...I'd never seen a p/u done with only front fenders and no rears...Now, I've been schooled. It looks cool, sounds cool, and is just plain *****in'. I fell for that truck while it was being shot..I got to see it at many different angles, talk to the owner/builder, and sat in it for awhile (holding the brake pedal to make the taillights bright). It's a way cool ride and I wouldn't change a thing - but that's not what I thought when I first saw it. Spending some time with it won me over. Its perfect as-is because of the story behind it and the fact that the owner built it himself the way he wanted it, and the inspiration was pure (16 yr.-old male influences are the strongest for life).

    It's one killer ride.

    Scotch~!
     
  28. Mutt
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    His brother, Charlie, is one of the best top choppers I have seen. He has an old machine shop behind his house that was loaded with good stuff - from rods to 50's cars - including an old Ch***is Research K-88 that I tried to buy from him. Both Charlie and Paul have been at it since the 50's and know their stuff.

    Dan
     

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