this is what i heard about Brookville Roadster

Honestly Dr J, you just nailed it. If I can build I lighter, cheaper, faster car out of gl***, why the hell would I drop 20K on a steel body???

 

I think it's funny having arguments about what people start with when building a car, or what we think is correct. It's ALL about what you end up with.

I can't count the number of horrible **** ugly pieces of **** made from "real steel" cars.....and yet I've seen some kick *** stuff built from fibergl***. I don't care if you use papermache to build a killer ride....as long as it gets me excited to see it.

Build what you want, with what you want...just dont show up in my driveway in your Leisure suit driving a (turquoise with magenta graphics ) 34 three window "real steel" copy of Fido's ***....I won't answer the door and might just take a shot at ya.

 

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but it would have been easier and cheaper to go with with brookville ..and you know it will be right

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The Brookville roadster body is nice....... but is NOT right.

The area around the rear is ALL wrong........no place to attach the upholstery.



Original 32 Ford roadsters have a wooden tack strip to fold the upholstery under.....like this......Model A shown but the method is the same...



Brookville looks like this below........




Also.......the Brookville Roadster quarter panels are flatter...than originals......more Model A like.......and some of the revels are shallow.....not deep enough.


I believe the fit and overall finish to be good...and a good product.......just NOT dead on .

 

The Brookville 32 roadster can be ordered with or without the tack strip feature.....same with the modelA's...they just wanted to have OPTIONS that ford never had....and that's a GOOD thing.

 

It would be great to have an original steel body but some of us cant afford one and why does it matter anyway? nothing else on the car is the way Henry intended.

 

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The Brookville 32 roadster can be ordered with or without the tack strip feature.....same with the modelA's...they just wanted to have OPTIONS that ford never had....and that's a GOOD thing.

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I have never heard that................could very well be the truth........I cannot read the small print on their on-line catalog... But I have never seen one....I know the first 50 or 75 did not have cowl vents either. I saw So-Cal put theirs together from pieces..the red and white shop car. It has no tackstrip either.

I would love for the Brookville 3W to be dead nuts.....I would buy one TODAY.


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Go visit the factory...Ray and Ken are great people and dedicated to doing the best. When they reproduce a part or complete body, they gather many original parts(or bodies)...compare them, then average the measurements to make a correct (as possible) part. As you know, tolerances in the thirties werent even close to todays cars.

My roadster body was ordered with the tack strip...not by me, but I'm glad it was built that way...wood is good.

 

hatch is correct, I just received the new Brookville catalog yesterday and the "Deck Former" is a custom option, one of about a dozen, that they offer.

 

Won't these be a lot easier to chop than a 'gl*** body?

 

Holy ****. This hobby has gone way off the reservation. We're actually happy that a body costs "only" $20,000?!?!

David

 

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Holy ****. This hobby has gone way off the reservation. We're actually happy that a body costs "only" $20,000?!?!

David

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Who the hell are you?

JH

 

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hatch is correct, I just received the new Brookville catalog yesterday and the "Deck Former" is a custom option, one of about a dozen, that they offer.

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I did not mean to imply that Hatch would lie........

I just have never seen a Brookville with the original style rear panel......How much is the option?

When he said his came that way.....that was GOOD enough for me.....

I stand corrected............but the quarter panels and revels.........still need work IMHO.

I hope the 3W does not have a filled roof, filled cowl vent or any other deviations from the 32 Murray built body. I would pull my Roadster up from it's ch***is for a good 3W body.

 

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Holy ****. This hobby has gone way off the reservation. We're actually happy that a body costs "only" $20,000?!?!

David


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Newbe or not ,he makes my whole point.Just don't beleve your buying a gennie body.It's a repo,a nice one ,but still a $20,000.00 repo.
Sedan(fake repo gl***)dad

 

Deuce Roadster,

The "Deck Former" as this option is called is explained as "the area around the top of the Body is rolled to form a smoothie look, for use with a Hot Rod Seat". It is an additional $150

 

I've been bumping and painting since 1975....in this day and age, $20,000 won't buy a "used up 3 window body" and get it repaired properly and in primer.

Some people don't care if they drive a copy...I'm one of them. I DO care about resale value. Metal vs gl***....metal wins.

I'm sure Brookville will do the body as close to original as possible...that's their roots. As I mentioned before, they measure as many cars as they can and get an average for the dies. When I bought mine, a friend had a very nice 30 roadster body he was building. I saw it in bare metal and I couldn't believe what I was seeing. My BV had the same flaws as henrys...it was almost scary.

Anybody interested in hotrods should really try to stop at the factory...I went with fab32 a couple times to buy stuff(two 32 roadsters).....Absolutely one of the neatest places I've visited.

 

Just for reference...here is their "stock" version.

 

Just another Brookville that I like.....How could you NOT like a company that enables this kinda stuff to be built?

 

They might as well be selling them for $1M. I'm never going to drop $20K for a body unless it has big ***s and an *** and kisses you goodnight!

 

I agree....I sure don't have 20k to throw around.....their roadsters are a bargain though...modelA starts at 5k...that's cheaper than gl***.

 

You cheapos need to put this in perspective.

You can't throw down $20k for a body? Then you weren't in the market for ANY 3-window unless you uncovered one in a barn, or won the lottery.

Take a look at that junk posted above. $6k for junk. Think you can fix that body for less than 200 nights work? Really?

As far as real vs. repop - they were only original ONCE! You've patched it, painted it, smoothed it, channeled it, chopped it - forget about it. It's not original and the origin of the body no longer matters. Steel vs. Fibergl***? The public has spoken. Steel wins. Regardless of the construction methods, steel more closely resembles original bodies (duh) and commands a higher resale value - often higher than the difference between the original cost and prep difference between a gl*** and steel body.

This question gets to the heart of those guys building replicas and kit cars of Porsche Speedsters. When asked if it's real, they reply "it's a Speedster", not "it's a Porsche".

Same thing for most folks building hot rods from a Brookville body - any Brookville body.

It's not a FORD - It's a HOT ROD!

Fooling AACA judges is another matter. If you can do that, and keep a straight face, more power to you! Those guys can usually spot a con a mile away.

 

Very few people have the talent to properly repair a rusted hulk to the level of a new body...most repairs still get you a "plastic car with a steel liner" when you are done....and a VERY EMPTY WALLET......hey, the guy who makes bondo has kids to feed too!!!!

 

Call a kit car what it is.....a kit car. Just don't call it what it replicates. A steel Brookville body does not make it a '32 Ford anymore than a gl*** Wescott body does. I still find it hard to believe that state DOL's allow for newly built replicas to be ***led as 65+ year old cars.

There are still lots of cool rigs out there that were once manufactured as a car to hot rod or restore. Sure some are modified now with filler and body modifications, but they were still factory built cars/bodies at one time. To pay $20K for a steel replica body seems crazy. I don't know about you guys, but it would drive me nuts to be constantly asked if my '32 coupe hot rod was a replica or the real deal. Can you imagine how much fun it must be for the owner of a $250K 427 Cobra to be asked what manufacturer made his kit car.

I drive a Ford, that is a Hot Rod.

 

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Amen, brother!!! This is big boy stuff, it always was and will always be. Even "back in the day", what a stupid ****ing phrase by the way, this thing was "money". You want the big stuff, pull out your wallet. For example, a complete Halibrand V8 rear with axles in 1966 was $600. My father was making around $2 bucks/hour working for the Big Three, do the math!

 

I can see where this is going, and I want to throw some perspective on it.

If you want the car that has been built, and built again so many times, and so many ways, that the methods to make it look good, or real good, or so good you forget how to talk, that those method (the recipe) is basic knowledge of the fraternity of hot rodders...If you want the car that's instantly recognizable as an icon of the hot rod and land speed racing world...If you want the car that has not depreciated ;-) since the day it was sold by Ford, then buy a 3 window. But be prepared to pay with either cash or time or both.

If you want to make a splash, but don't have the cash or time you better be a frikin' artist with style and fashion, grab something that is at least half cool, and finish the job. Although this scenerio has been played out for at least two decades, so don't think you're doing anything groundbreaking. Good example is Ryan's '38 Coupe. The '38 is not popular although Coupes in general are fairly cool and old Fords always seem to be more popular than other garden variety makes. Noone that sees that car leaves thinking it lacks anything though.

With that behind me.....If you want a 3 window deuce, prepare to PAY!

If you're not prepared to pay, then build a model A (like everyone else) or a minitruck (so '80s unless you've got dubs) or a WRX (on the installment plan). FWIW - I'm building a model A, but saving for a certain bone stock, never messed up, well known '32 3 window that lives around my parts.

And for you "gotta be original" guys...the moment you lose the gem off the lighter inside the ashtray on the dash of your 3 window, it AIN'T as Ford designed it any more. Repos aren't the right color anyway.

Regarding registering new cars as old...it isn't the DMV's choice. It's the owner's choice, and it's usually fraud at some level. Untill the state tells us exactly what part "is" the car, any fair portion of a reproduction that has some identifiable component of a serial numbered car is fair game to be re-***led sourounded by a host of reproduction parts. And if THAT is what you have to do to run the rego you want and escape emission requirements for ho-hum muckys, then so be it!

Rant over......

 

Geeeez. I gotta lay off the 5th and 6th esspressos!

 

As for worrying about the repop bringing down the price of the origional, remember they've been making the grill shells for years and people still pay 12 to 16 hundred bucks for an origional beat up one and then cut it down and fill it so it looks like the Brookville!

 

...and gennie roadster body prices havent exactly plummeted either!
Whew! What a brouhaha. Look, Brookville is gonna make a $20K 3W body. Not gennie, dont like it? Dont buy one. Too expensive, theyre crazy? Dont buy one.
Here I was gonna buy a B-ville deuce roadster body(WITHOUT THE GAWDDAMNED TACK STRIP!) to sit in the garage next to my GENNIE 3W, but now Im all conflicted...(sheesh)

 

I'm with 'beat on this one. I would only add that most DMVs will wink at the fact that a given car is not a restored or "modified" original because, at least at some dim level of the legislative zeitgeist, owner-built vehicles are a part of the automotive landscape in this country and they rule it out completely only at the risk of lots of noisy taxpayer kvetching. If this weren't the case then no T-Bucket would ever see the light of day. If a blown bucket slathered in chrome and rolling on monster Mickeys can be liscensed then damn near anything can be. It's all the more remarkable in this day and age when the greenie whacko crowd is desparately gunning for anything that emits more "pollutants" than a mountain bike. Good thing we're such an insignificant part of the "problem" and beneath their notice for the time being. We're lucky we haven't been outed by the envirofascists for being abominations before the great goddess Gaia.

 

Gl*** or steel its not a fake until someone tries to present it as a original!!