this is what i heard about Brookville Roadster

Brush...15k canadian for a cherry 3window body???....I'll be there in 5 hours!!!

 

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Brush...15k canadian for a cherry 3window body???....I'll be there in 5 hours!!!

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Uh...well Hatch just had a bad accident, so if it's ok I'll be up to get that 3 window for $15,000 Canidian

Brush, if it is indeed cherry that is actually a good deal.

A guy in our area just bought a 32 three window for $45.000 and is now haveing a rod shop build it into a, dare I say High Dollor Street Rod.

I think people are always going to see the original tin as more valuable and desireable.

 

I MIGHT have a bad accident...heading to Canada with the pedal on the floor....

 

$15K canadian! What is that? like $6.00 US???

 

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A guy in our area just bought a 32 three window for $45.000 and is now haveing a rod shop build it into a, dare I say High Dollor Street Rod.



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Um, I think that's already a high dollar street rod!

 

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Yep, it would be 5 months for a Brookville and a repro set of frame rails and three crossmembers. Too much? Get a better job.

But, even at my obcene pay (ha!) there are still about 10,000 other things I want to spend my moolah on before I buy a bare body for another project.

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Modern- The point I was trying to make is that for a guy doing the same work as the guy who spent 4 mos pay to buy a 32 frame and body, it would be much more than 4 mos pay today.

I mean, say that guy worked at a gas station in the 60's, a guy working at a gas station today would have to wait a hell of a lot longer to buy that same body. Pay rates for the average blue collar worker today haven't kept up with the demand for hot rod parts. That's really all I'm saying.

I could find a way to afford a $20k body. That's not the issue. What is the issue is if it's worth it to have the ideal, done to death, 32 3w with all the right parts, or would it be more fun for you to build a car outa what can be had for considerably less?

I just wanted to hear what you guys thought about that. I find it an interesting question, and one that could help define someone's project goals.

Personally I like the look of 33 dodge coupes almost as much as 33 Ford coupes so I might build one for the fun of it... It's all theoretical.

 

Ok, so where's the line between a '32 and a repop ? It's getting pretty damn vauge. If you have a gennie frame, firewall, and grille, use a repop body, is that a '32 ? I would say no. Say you bought the remains of a '32 roadster, and used Brookville subrails, floor, deck lid, patch panels, under deck lid panel, above deck lid panel, and dash. Everything else is gennie. Is that a '32 ? I would say yes. What if you replaced both quarters, is it still a '32 ? When does it stop being a '32 ? Now, how about the 'phantoms', like Posie's '32 5-w built a few years ago. Is that a '32 ? Does it matter ? Who gives a rat's *** ?

 

I'm afraid they are gonna start buildin' steel Corvettes,,,then we will really have something else to ***** about,,,,is it Gl*** or repro steel! HRP

 

Wow, lots of readin' there!!
From what i've gathered in my relatively short automotive life, '32 ford stuff, either gennie or reproduction seems to command more money than 'most' of the other stuff around the same era.
Personally i've always loved '32s. When i finally had enough money to start looking, i realised there was no way i was gonna be able to buy a steel '32 coupe..on to gl*** for me.
I bought a 3 window gl*** body, and built myself a coupe the way i wanted.
When asked what it is, i say a deuce, or hot rod..if asked if it's steel, i just say "no its a reproduction body"..
Funny thing is when i'm driving it, or looking at it, i realised it wouldn't matter if it was steel or gl***, i still love it and was fortunate to be able to built it. It feels real enough for me. But i never p*** it off as a gennie 1932 car..

it's gl***..it's also loud, fast and fun..good enough to make me smile


Last year, i bought a '32 5 window body. This one is steel, from 1932..
When it's done, i'm sure it'll make me feel the same way my gl*** car does, damn proud and happy!!


Buy it and build it the best you can on what you can afford, repro or not, and just have a blast with it!
when debates start, the fun stops..
I like the new steel repro bodies, but i could never afford to buy one.I could use the garnish moldings for my 5 window if they make em .i'd buy them!!

This is only my worthless thoughts..
thanks

Rat...

 

I think it's funny when you go back and read ALL the posts.....the ones who say it does not matter steel original/repro.... fibergl***/whatever........does not have the original.

I have friends with gl*** 32's.......HRP in point....he will tell you I was a big influence on him buying the roadster I KNOW he and his wife have a blast in it. He is well known for saying "it aint real but its real fun" ..and I agree. He is having fun.......that's the point. Having fun.


I have owned original steel 32 roadsters for over 30 years. I sold a steel 32 Hiboy to buy the 32 roadster I have now. I have owned the one I have now for over 25 years. I am not a gold chainer.......I bought my Deuce Johnny Cash style...1 piece at a time. Frame from here, grille from there, rear fender from over yonder. I bought 35 - 40 fenders to end up with the 4 on the car. The hood pieces are from 4 different cars......

I had FUN chasing down all the pieces.
To me, that is where the fun is....finding the parts, meeting good people (and some NOT SO GOOD ).

To me...that's the fun. Not trying to p*** off something to be something it's not. I do not care if you project is original steel, repro steel, fibergl*** or a Kit Car. Have fun.

I pointed out the fact about Brookville's differences NOT to discourage anyone from buying one........just as a fact because someone said they are so correct......I believe that Wescott makes the most correct 32 Ford roadster shape and dimesion wise........and when properly painted and finished is almost impossible to tell from a Henry 32.....


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i never thought when i started this thread that i would go on like this,i was just p***ing on what i had heard,but it has been fun reading all the different opinions. i don't care what someones else build,gl*** or steel,as long as they enjoy it. but for me,it has to be steel!

a couple posts pointed out that the stuff is still out there if you look....they are right! i was just on the phone tonight with someone i sold some parts to on ebay and he informed me he has a `32 3 window for $10,000...and it's only 150 miles from me.i'm going on saturday

 

For me....it's always been about what I can create....not what I bought.....the things I buy are just raw material...a starting point....not a status symbol.


Life is....doing things...not having things.

 

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I think it's funny when you go back and read ALL the posts.....the ones who say it does not matter steel original/repro.... fibergl***/whatever........does not have the original.

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that's like saying you found something in the last place you looked. of course they don't have the original, they don't value it enough to pay the exorbitant prices when they could build what they want for so much less...

 

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I think it's funny when you go back and read ALL the posts.....the ones who say it does not matter steel original/repro.... fibergl***/whatever........does not have the original.

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that's like saying you found something in the last place you looked. of course they don't have the original, they don't value it enough to pay the exorbitant prices when they could build what they want for so much less...

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Autocol - I agree. I've had steel and I have fibergl***. They all have had one thing in common - they've been hot rods. I've built them all in my garage, and I don't care if someone likes them or not because I build what I want. And I've found that real hot rodders don't much care if it's steel or gl*** (or aluminum) as long as it's built right. At this time in my life, I don't have the time nor the inclination to spend the money required to get an original body and do what's necessary to get it right ( Either pay large for a nice body or do the work on one less nice).

Maybe it's because I'm a drag racer more than a street rodder, but what it's made of is less important than what it does, both mechanically and visually. My new 5-window body has all of the features of the original (pop out windshield, roll down back window, cowl vent, drip rails, etc.) with the added feature of steel bracing and built in rust proofing, and it came ready for paint. I paid $8,000.00 for it and consider it a bargain. A friend that has a steel 5-window was amazed at the detail of the body. It's not a matter of p***ing it as a 'real' car, it's a matter of doing what I want to do the best way for me. And it'll be a real hot rod.

 

Wow! for a post that could have got ugly, it's getting great! I think Hatch said it best.
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For me....it's always been about what I can create....not what I bought.....the things I buy are just raw material...a starting point....not a status symbol.


Life is....doing things...not having things.


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Really can't say it better then that!!!!!
Oh yea good luck on 36 3w on you new find! hope to see some pictures soon..

 

seems spendy, but think of the financial risk brookville is taking, sure we know they will sell well, at least we think so, but consider...how much do you suppose a block of solid steel, DIE steel, 6 feet by 6 feet by 2 feet weighs? COSTS? now that you got the raw material, to make one half of one die, you gotta have a BIG CNC mill to start machining it...and if it's wrong, which there can be a good chance, you are reverse engineering from old original parts, consider your frustration trying to get a single dent worked out of stubborn steel, now think of remaking the whole die cause it isn't right...it takes some VERY serious money to start cranking out these complicated, low volume stampings.

oh, and go ask the guys who got gennie deuce 3 windows, how many cars they have traded through to get to that deuce, a lot of fibergl***, boring sedans and later models along the way generally. if you think your second car is gonna be a deuce coupe or roadster, after doing your first car, a comet that you primered all by yourself.

there is an old fellow that works at the same place i do, his garages are full of desireable old ford tin, cherry, restored, expensive. he probably makes about $12 an hour doing what he does, and never works overtime, but years of being in the hobby, patience, trades, and smart deals, he has buildings full of his dream cars.

 

OK Guys,
for around 5 Grand you can have a steel Model A Roadster or RPU from Brookville.That is cheap !!!
Why everybody wants a '32 ?????
It takes more than a '32 Steel Body to build a cool Hot Rod.
I worked on steel and fiberglas bodies and like steel a lot more, but one of the best looking '32 3 window coupes (in my mind) is a glas one built by Jon Golding of Home Grown
Hot Rods in England !!!!!!!!!
Michael

 

Just to stir the ****, I was one of the posts that said repo/original, doesnt matter...and my 3W IS VERY REAL...and I traded my first car to get it.
Its like the post from some time ago where some guys complained about HopUp Mag. Dont like it? Dont read it! Its a free country, its not a government program. It doesnt have to be all things to all people. If the Brookville product is not dead-nuts on(and its pretty damned close-**** the tack strip!), SO WHAT! Dont buy it! And if some people dont want to **** around with patch panels and resurrect a dead body, SO WHAT! Whats it to ya?! Pull out TRJ#8 and read what Ganahl said about the roadster body, even the nicest gennie body has got 72-friggin years of age on it. If he didnt already have a gennie at the time, he'd have a B-ville. Ive GOT a gennie and Im gonna GET a B-ville. And as for why '32 **** is so expensive, that they only cost 4-months worth of pay in the sixties and now it costs 12?...Cuz theyre 72-FRIGGIN YEARS OLD, thats why!! And 20-times more people want one now than then.
Its like the weather...everyone complains but no one does anything about it.

 

Thats not true.
I do what I can for global warming...

 

When I am out in my car, the people who make me feel good about what I'm drivin are the kids. They always are welcome to climb in and grab the steering wheel with their dirty sticky hands and pretend they are driving. I don't care if they walk on the seat....or try the shifter. I know the parents appreciate it....too many "car nuts" are so ****, they think their precious baby will be forever tainted if a little kid touches it. I'm pretty sure the kids don't care if it is a studebaker or a ford or a brookville...they just love seeing and experiencing it. If they have a camera around, I make sure they get some pics for their bulletin board at home....maybe someday they will build a hot rod and make some kids day a GREAT one too.

If you are a true car nut...stand back and let the kids check it out...smile even if it's killin ya.

 

Mutt, you seemed to be pleased with the 5 window. Who makes it?

Thanks.

 

NewAge-Motorsports in Connecticut. They bought the Flatlanders moulds. I had always heard that Flatlanders had the best moulds, and the only ones that I had heard of for an unchopped 5-window. The body is really unbelievable in fit and finish - they even have the bolts and screws on the inside of the doors moulded in. PM me if you want some closeup photos of the detail.
They're at:
http://www.newage-motorsports.com/


Dan

 

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hatch--- I do that also. I have never seen car people get so pissed about something as they do about that.

 

Wellll, I love deuces, roadsters, 3-windows etc, 2 doors etc. I say, good for Brookville! Major investment of effort and money. But pretty much ALL deuce stuff is outta my snack bracket. Wife, kids, etc. That's life. This can be one HELL of an expensive hobby.

Funny thing about the 32 Ford is how it's leapfrogged stuff that, in it's day, cost 5-10 times more.
Brush relates about the guy with a 3W body for $15K Canadian (about $11K US)and that's probably a real good price. But about an hour north of me, (and Brush) there's a big 28 or 29 roadster complete (needs resto) that I THINK is a Stutz(!). (Sorry no pic...maybe later) for "asking $18K" CDN. Dumb ****** has it stored outside (top down). This thing is complete! (maybe earlier resto) Faded paint, all trim, full (trashed)interior,dash, gauges, disc wheels. I KNOW, not trad rod material by any means, but, if I've got the make right, that ****er probably cost 8 times the Ford. Adam Smith's "unseen hand" drives the market. Supply and demand. Just less demand for that (true) cl***ic. Cl***ic now usually means tri-five Chevs! (No offence, and I do love the 55 especially.)
So with this market, I can pick up my '36 Packard rolling ch***is (needs work..no garage DAMN!)for less than deuce rails (repro or otherwise). Kinda paints you into a corner tho re build plans. Still, using the Johnny Cash plan, I think I can build my plan eventually. Not steel body...or gl***.........fabric! (over wood frame) , like Bentleys and Astons back when.
Like Tinbender and deuce roadster said...I think a lot of the fun is in the chase (scrounging)...and driving something you built yourself...whatever it cost. Loud, fast and your OWN!!

 

I didn't think I was ever going to get thru all these posts

I had a gl*** T back in the 70's and never had more fun in the front seat of a car.

A good friend had Doyle Gammels 32 3-window in the 60's and having put a lot of miles in that car, I've always wanted to repo that car. I hear its going thru a restoration in some high dollar collection. when its done it will never be Doyles old car that you could see daylight around the door tops as you drove down the road.

I learned that I'm no good working gl*** (start itching just thinking about it) and I'm not much better with steel but I enjoy shrinking, stretching and beating on steel. so the thought of a all fresh steel 32 3-window is exciting.

Donn Lowe is ***embling some of the Dearborn Dueces and has issues with the stampings fit, finish and style. but after he's done they look good enough for me and fit better better than Gammels one of the top ten 32's ever according to some.the problems with the dearborn from what I've heard is they were designed using Henry Ford's original blue prints instead of an actual car. so its possible, tho not likely! that they are closer to the prints than the originals 32 fords haha

So if I start throwing my loose change in a fruit jar now I might have enough cash saved by the time brookville get theirs into production to buy some brochures

 

It will be great when Brookville gets into high gear with production of the Deuce 3-window clone! Those that can afford them will be happy, and those having originals that need the harder-to-find pieces will be able to get rid of the fibergl*** and get real steel parts! Looking for the steel decklid, dash and window garnish for one of these originals has been an exercise in frustration. I'm a happy guy to get this news!

 

Maybe if Brookville sells the entire roof and door tops I can m***age and cut it into the world's first 3-window Model A coupe.