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Technical Thoughts on this rear suspension setup

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by ratfink56, Mar 19, 2022.

  1. choptop40
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    im shocked...
     
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  2. seb fontana
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    Got to be foto shop, the car is higher than the ramp launch angle.. I do wonder the landing though..
     
  3. blowby
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    Joie Chitwood was a pretty famous daredevil, my guess is it's real.
     
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  4. 2OLD2FAST
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    WTF does the color of the axle have to do with anything ( mines white )
     
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  5. choptop40
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    white rear axles look amazing....
     
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  6. Kiwi 4d
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    Is that a panhard bar above the LH shock. ***uming this is a LHD car isn’t it also mounted the wrong end to the frame and axle? Does it make a difference on the rear?
     
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  7. Phil P
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    It looks like a panhard rod to me, I didn't know it made any difference which side was which.

    Phil
     
  8. blue 49
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    I hope it doesn't make a lot of torque. Just looks like front hairpins locating the axle.

    Gary
     
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  9. X38
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    Frame mount for panhard should always be same side as the steering box.
     
  10. ronzmtrwrx
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    I did not know that. Why ?
     
  11. X38
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    So that the panhard and tie rod move in similar arcs and don't jack against each other with suspension movement.
     
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  12. Dedsoto
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    Doesn't appear to have a tailshaft so shouldn't be a problem :D
     
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  13. ronzmtrwrx
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    Is that for a cross steering setup only, or does that apply to side steer setups?
     
  14. X38
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    That would be for cross steering.
     
  15. ronzmtrwrx
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    I figured. Makes sense, I just never thought about that. Thanks.
     
  16. Zuffen
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    I'm at a loss why there is a difference as to what side of the vehicle a rear Panhard works from. Would that make Ford's Watts Linkage wrong?

    I will say the Panhard should be as horizontal as possible when the vehicle is at ride height to stop excessive sideways travel of the axle on bumps. This one sure isn't
     
  17. X38
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    No. It's a different animal.
     
  18. Mimilan
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    @Zuffen @X38

    In L/H turn oval racing all the idiots mounted the panhard on the L/H axle and R/H frame so the Panhard was under tension during cornering. [because it was stronger or didn't bend blah blah!]

    But all the smart guys mounted the panhard on the L/H frame and R/H axle so the Panhard was under compression during cornering.
    Then they had adjustable heights at both ends [multiple mounting holes] so they could lift or lower the panhard to raise or lower the Roll Centre Height,
    AND they would also alter the angle downwards from horizontal to increase side bite onto the R/R tyre [from lateral acceleration]

    A wedged and staggered dirt car would have the Panhard under tension on the front axle and compression on the rear axle.
    This helped the L/F "grab air" and transfer weight diagonally to the R/R on corner exit.

    The Panhard became obsolete on the rear when they started using a Jacob's ladder which increased side bite with body roll
     
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  19. 49ratfink
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    looks like there is a few miles on it. I think I would be more concerned about the welds that look like they have very limited penetration than the funky coil overs
     

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