Thread deletion and new layout, a semi complaint...

Maybe i woke up with a little bit of a bug or something this morning but i just need to get this off my chest. I jumped on this morning to check the hamb as usual. I thread that was started yesterday by a user asking about '62 f100 frame that i had tried to share some information with had been deleted. yes it was about jag swap but it didn't go into any crazy detail or anything just general info and a few pics. enough to let the guy do some more digging on his on to find the info. I was actually going to link him to the jag social group as i had forgot to when posting the other info late last night.

now yes i know the search feature is your friend, but i have to say I don't know why but the search feature isn't quite as user friendly as it use to be. Theres been stuff i've tried to pull back up since the reformat that took a little extra effort and I knew what i was looking for. Are we being a little to quick to just trash these things instead of maybe mods helping where they can and then locking the thread? Who knows if the op even saw the info that was posted to know what to look for. If the thread was locked he could at least know to look to the social groups for info, pm anyone(which i think alot of people are confused by the "start a conversation"/pm method, that had posted ifo he was maybe interested in, etc.

I've been around here for a long time i think 10+ years under this user name and several under another that was lost in an update. Mods used to try and HELP and at most lock most treads. As said some info is harder to find now esp with the new format we haven't gotten comfortable with yet. And not everyone is computer smart as your average 5 year now a days. So can we maybe take it easy on some of us lesser computer guys and find a middle ground? not everyone on here is building era correct hot rods and customs. in fact i'd bt the percent of true dead era correct is pretty low. maybe we sit back pop the top on a virtual beer and relax a touch. oh and someone mentioned performance problems and being linked to facebook/twitter/etc. i will say with the new layout i seem to get a "lag" while responding that i didn't get before and the only other place i get that is facebook so maybe they are onto something there. again remember alot of us aren't "computer guys" sitting around with newer equipment. my laptop is 7 years old. outdated? yep. am i buying another before this one dies? nope. because i've got cars to spend that money on and i bet you'd find a big percentage of users just like me on that.

So who knows maybe this thread will get deleted to. maybe after 15 or so years i'll get banned. But i just had to get this off my chest as a long timer who just hates to see what use to be such a helpful fun place becoming less of both....ken...

 

Did you send this to Ryan? He can do something, if it needs to be done. All you'll get from members is, keep playing with it until you figure it out and Jag rear end swaps aren't really HAMB stuff.

 

Here's a short parable about new tech.

Back in 1998, my dad bought my mom a brand new 1999 Ford Crown Victoria. The only Ford he ever purchased and he died 6 months later, but that's for another story. So, my mom complained about everything in the car. Hell, she didn't know it had a CD player, until 2004. She said she couldn't do this or where was that. Finely, my dad told her, "What you need to do, is start it, sit in the driveway and fiddle with every button, so you'll know what they do."

Well, she didn't and never knew what she was missing. When she stopped driving, in 2004, it became mine. The damn thing was fully loaded. Climate adjusted A/C, automatic seats, and all the other shit that comes on a car that shared the Lincoln Town Car format.

So, the moral of the parable is this. Just sit down one day and click on every button, so you'll know what this site is capable of doing. Simple.

 

it was about jag front swap but thats not really the point. the point is for many years this was THE place to get info. even if it was a link to previous threads and then that thread closed the user was HELPED with finding that info. thats why i started coming here to begin with to talk cars and help where i could and try and find info where needed. as said alltogether i've been here since shortly after the begining and back then most folks here were just like me.. we've lost a bunch of those with good info along the way. i myself have pulled away from here for periods of weeks to months, but i always come back after a break. i'm just saying theres more than one way to handle these situations.

we don't all have model a's, dueces, '40 fords, etc, but we all obviously have a love of old cars/trucks and at least a semi similar mindset. i know theres forums for just about every make/model out there. part of the hamb's charm to me was always the broad spectrum coverage....

since i'd like to not get this deleted i'll just say that from memory of a discussion of jag irs in hot rods right here onhe hamb i think the first ones showed up early 60s so that may fall in the debatable category...ken....

 

So, have you sent all this to Ryan? Times change and lot's of threads get deleted. I'm never surprised at the one's that do. Again, you need to direct this to the ONE person who can answer your question and address your complaint.

 

I agree with tfeverfred.Ryan or one of the moderators should be able to help.

 

I've only been here a few months, but I belong to lots of forums & have run a couple too.

I am also the resident computer geek at our office. I've run the new HAMB on brand new hot-rod PC's and I've run it on obsolete 10 year old machines, and it's been randomly balky on all of them.

I believe the Admins here will get that sorted out in time, but I suspect they weren't 100% geared up for the additional things an upgrade like this entails. It normally takes weeks to work out the bugs.

Also, from my experience, the mods here each have to review a huge number of posts every day, and you must remember that it's a volunteer effort. They don't have the time to explain everything to everyone, and they're damn well not getting paid for their efforts (unless this is truly the oddest forum on the web.).

I believe that they've frequently erred on the side of Period Correctness, when there were grey areas in the rules.

Nonetheless, I've often done the same so I understood when a question of mine was deleted because the mod thought it was about a rat rod. He was mistaken, unless rat rods are sporting chrome pipes and shiny paint jobs now, but perhaps it wasn't period correct enough or he has a different opinion about what's ratty.

Ultimately, it's not worth making an issue of here. People are going to make mistakes, and they're going to have different opinions, and often you just gotta smile and get along.

I'm just happy to get whatever help I can here, and to give the same, and if it's not as painless as we'd all like it to be, it's still worth the time and effort.

That doesn't mean I never complain. I'm just as human, and we're not as reliable or logical as computers.

 

ryan,
i say the following with all due respect since as i see it this is your house and we all hang out shootin the shit in your house. i have say i guess theres just differences of " a bit dramatic" as thats exactly how i see thread deletion. again with all respect. i guess i just miss the old days a little, but thats true in most aspects of life. there are MANY things i love about the HAMB. but i honestly have to say with every new upgrade there are things i miss and things i like. so is the world.

So with that said with all the sections that come and go how about a section thats just for curiousities just like this? Off Topic for traditional sake but On Topic for sake of methods commonly/maybe not so commonly done on era appropriate cars/trucks.

I say this with praise you've built a mega online library of hot rod/custom information. when a question pops into my mind 90% of the time this is the FIRST place i come digging to see if the info is here and alot of the time it is. again your house, your rules, your "decor". Either way i say thank you fo what you provide for us and don't think of this is an ungrateful rant. It's feedback from a long standing member.

 

As far as the search function, I've used it maybe 6 or 8 times with perfect results. But, I don't know computers or browsers. I am using two outdated? browsers; one is IE one is firefox. One lets me see the info hidden in avatars, one does not. one lets me click on the latest post in a thread, the other does not...

so maybe your software is giving a problem?


I am here only for pure old time build styles and what they really used for parts. I thought that is what is accepted here, but quite a few people post digs at bias tires and single circuit master cylinders, point ignition and even generators. It got to a point where I stopped posting and I felt like an outsider. Read the rules, and see who the outsiders really are. There are tons of modern build sites out there, but only one "traditional" site as far as I know. Can't WE have a place to feel at home?