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  1. 1971BB427
    Joined: Mar 6, 2010
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    1971BB427
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    from Oregon

    I winterize my cars every winter, and because we start getting cold and rainy here in October, that's usually when I do it. I hate having to stop driving them then as I know regular use will be 6 months away, unless we happen to get a cold sunny day here or there. But my winterization isn't so much that I can't get them out easily if we do get a nice day here or there, so I do sometimes get lucky.
     
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  2. 05snopro440
    Joined: Mar 15, 2011
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    Fuel stabilizer, air up the tires, and disconnect the battery here, and put them in my quonset. Leave the hood up to discourage mice. This year I actually checked my antifreeze concentrations.
     
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  3. jnaki
    Joined: Jan 1, 2015
    Posts: 10,391

    jnaki

    Hello,

    It was the winter of 1949 in So Cal. The worst storm in So Cal history was recorded and we all were affected. Yes, it snowed in So Cal !!! From south San Diego up past Santa Barbara, the snow hit all over the vast So Cal coastline. Yes, coastline near and on the water lapping the shore. There are photos of everywhere in So Cal reporting the snow. Local papers had the photos to show the most unusual occurrence.

    Having lived through its aftermath and remembering the refusing notion to go in our dad’s newly purchased 49 black Buick 4 door Roadmaster sedan for a trip to the store was memorable to say the least. Despite having a new car, he had to park it in the street in front of our old Craftsman house. He tried to squeeze the big Buick into one of the garage stalls in our back yard, but the Buick was too large to fit in the side opening doors and dinky space. Access was through an alley, but the alley was so narrow he could no get any angle to drive it into the narrow opening.
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    So, it was easier for him to park it out in front, where he parked his 41 Buick fastback sedan since 1947.

    Jnaki

    But, after the snowfall of 1949, it was a no-go for both my brother and me. The sedan was too cold to even touch the door handle, let alone get inside, all bundled up. So, our dad left on his own or heated it up for several long minutes to get it comfortable for the two brothers to tag along.

    Since that time, we have enjoyed the snow in the mountains during our skiing season years. But, the cold winter surfing with wetsuits on was more enjoyable. So, a nice warm car in the garage was always the answer for us So Cal locals. Ha!

    Here is a story about the winter of 1949 in So Cal. History in the making…

    We used to go camping when our dad was able to take us to his favorite place in So Cal, Mammoth Mountain area and specifically, Lake Crowley, just off of highway 395. It was a place we liked and went there during the warm summer months. But, he used to go to Lake Crowley with his friends from the area and stay in a motel for several days in late April during opening day of allowed fishing season for Trout. Snow or no snow, that was not going to keep avid trout fishermen away.

    So, if he were around, today, the last Saturday in April is going to be a freezing one if the current winter storm continues to drop its full force on the area. The Highway 395 is/was closed yesterday due to the powerful storm that is hitting the area now. The snow is piled high everywhere, the latest was a 2 foot storm drop and the winds make it almost zero visibility. (2023-24 the highway 395 was closed due to 12 foot high snowfall records being set all over the mountain range + deserts nearby.)

    During our snow skiing time period in our So Cal area, we used to go to the local mountains. But, for the best skiing in So Cal, a road trip was necessary to the Mammoth Mountain area. Mammoth and June Mountain ski areas are/were some of the best ski runs in California. But, we never encountered such force of winter as having the Highway 395 closed.

    Earlier in January 11, 1949, if we had lived in San Bernardino and the rest of that whole valley at the base of the local mountains, we would have gotten a lot of snow. (Remember, we are talking coastal highway homes, not mountain based or near So Cal mountains/tall hills, etc. which gets snow every year.) Last 2023 winter, Mammoth Mountain area on Highway 395 got snowed in with 12 feet of snow for months on end.
    upload_2024-11-17_3-27-35.png January 26, 1949
    We can get snow here, though admittedly it’s not an every-decade occurrence. In fact, snow-wise, we’re in a nearly 75-year drought right now. But, we were not out of the woods, as yet.

    Note:
    upload_2024-11-17_3-28-14.png It does and it did in 1932. But, of course, that was way before our time in So Cal. Our dad was around going to college and mentioned it once or twice…But for us, those days were like black holes…information in and gone in a second. Photo taken at UCLA in 1932…KCET

    Previous post:
    In looking back to all of those years when we would go up to the snowy local mountain areas after a coastal, So Cal winter rainfall, there is/was a question that lingers: Does it snow in the So Cal beach areas? Ever? Like on the Eastern Seaboard?

    The West Coast of the California is relatively a warm desert climate most of the year from below the mid-valley areas. If it wasn’t for imported water from Arizona and Northern California, it would be almost like the Death Valley Area down in the Los Angeles to Orange County cities. So, the warm climate AND water make it a nice area to live and grow up. But, the stories continue with the question: Does it snow in coastal, So Cal?
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    Our dad did see it snow in 1949 in Los Angeles. We were at home in Long Beach and it was cold with some white stuff floating around on the grass. But, it was not “snowed in” like the photos that follow.

    Documented Snow Days In So Cal:
    upload_2024-11-17_3-30-6.png Irvine, CA 1949
    “Early one January, in 1949, heavy snow blanketed Southern California, surprising locals with the strangest weather the area has ever faced. The snowfall began on the evening of January 10, after a long rain spell in the midst of a wave of bitter cold. Over the next two days, the temperature averaged between 20 to 25 degrees throughout Orange County.”

    “An overall average of two inches of snow hit, with greater concentrations in the Santa Ana Mountains and other elevated areas. Silverado reported depths of snow reaching over six inches. Irvine Ranch reached four inches of snow as the flatter areas of Orange, Tustin and Irvine all reached three inches on January 11.”

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    Laguna Beach 1949
    "This photo was taken by Marie Ayres of her new home at the intersection of San Remo Dr. and Temple Hills Dr. The date was Jan. 11, 1949. Marie built her home with her war widows pension and worked as the night auditor at the Hotel Laguna for some time. As her new home was above the highest water tank in town she would have to stop on her way home and turn on the pump to her house if she wanted to take a bath."

    "She later married Tommy Ayres who owned the Chevy dealership in Laguna. For people who think this photo is a fake, notice Catalina in the background. The home is still there but no longer painted yellow."

    “The hillsides of San Clemente, Corona del Mar and Laguna Beach were frosty white and local roads were closed due to slick roads and traffic accidents. Strangely enough, north OC beach communities, including Huntington Beach, reported warm coastal waters. Some locals flocked to the beach for a swim.”

    “But for the children, it was like a second Christmas. Most public schools were closed. The snow melted away after January 13, as a sporadic rainfall brought things back to normal and the rare January Snowstorm of 1949 faded into memory.”

    Note2:

    There has to be something to be said about living in a Mediterranean climate. Warm, mild winters and some hot, but mostly mild weather all year around. Good enough for shorts and a T-Shirt while a sweatshirt hoodie can be used to keep the slight chill off as we visit the coastal areas. YRMV

    So, in recent times, the last heavy “frozen ice” to So Cal coastal areas were the blasting we got in 2017.
    Killjoy Monday morning climatologists calling it "pea hail" or some other snowlike precipitation, but not snow. In the heavy storms of 2023, it did hail several days, but as fast as it hit the ground, there was not enough to do anything with the pea size ice.


    But, in January 23 2017 Snow in our backyard?
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    Sure glad we live in shorts and T-shirt climate, So Cal. Our extended family in the Midwest longs to be back in So Cal, just because of the weather. Even our freezer is not in the minus degree scenario ! Yikes…

    Currently, it is a week of 60 degrees with some sporadic rains. So, break out the hooded sweatshirts and snow waterproof jackets for the "walking in the rain..." scenario, like walking to get the mail from the down the street mailbox. Whew!






     
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  4. mikhett
    Joined: Jan 22, 2005
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    from jackson nj

    That's one hell of a collection,Mr.Moriarity!!
     
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  5. corncobcoupe
    Joined: May 26, 2001
    Posts: 8,126

    corncobcoupe
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    With all that happened this year with the neighbors tree destroying my original shop in the spring, I’m happy to recently move all my cars, trucks, tools and parts out of temporary storage into my new shop.

    So not bummed with winter coming as more things to organize/ set up in my shop.


    Tree Damage
    Old Shop Demolished
    Building New Shop
    New Shop
    Every day is a good day.

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  6. krylon32
    Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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    1. Central Nebraska H.A.M.B.

    Took the trusty daily driver deuce pickup to the car wash and got most of the summer bugs off, cleaned what there is of an interior, Filled it with alcohol free high test and parked it for the winter. Big changes coming tomorrow. Was a good summer, drove it over 10K and never went anywhere except the ROC.
     
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  7. jnaki
    Joined: Jan 1, 2015
    Posts: 10,391

    jnaki








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    Hello,

    Sorry, that all of your guys have to store away your hot rods and build projects for the winter. But, that is what acceptance of where you like to live and play, comes into action. At least, if you wander out to the garage workshop and it is heated, it probably feels great to work and play in a warm environment. So, if that is the case, think ahead and look down to the floor and wall joints. If there is a small quarter size space or two, you are welcoming indoors, those little fuzzy creatures for their winter haven.

    We used to place traps of all kinds, even suburbia, Long Beach. Yes, it does get cold and rainy, so any haven for a dry spell or location that is somewhat warm is better than hovering inside of a cold, wet ground burrow, that is how we always thought of those mice we saw running around the backyard.

    Try as much as possible to patch up the openings in the roof, rafters, baseboards, foundations, those little critters are sneaky and find any dinky opening, while squeezing down to thin dime size to get inside the warmth. It was a game of our persistence versus the little creatures, so, it was an annual thing, even in the mild Westcoast when winter came around.

    Jnaki

    Now, technology has brought out gadgets to help us in the battle of “us against them…” Those that rely on cats, flip traps with cheese or peanut butter, more power to you. They work, but it is a long process for setting them up, listening to the awful snapping sound and then the worse, cleanup and smell.

    So, since those electronic devices have come out, they work and work well. All it takes is ordering them, plugging them in sporadic wall plugs scattered around the garage, house and play houses to keep the critters away. The super high pitch “whatever” is geared to bother the critters and they tend to stay away.

    Yes, there are those that say…there is no data to back up any ultrasound effectiveness. Mostly by pest control companies… ha! But, they work for us and have been since I last saw those bulging eyes under a metal bar on the garage floor many years ago. It has been over 20 years of mice feet pitter patter sounds on our attic roof or if they somehow got inside, they are now gone. And no more disposal smell and awful sights… yuck!
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    When I had to park my sedan delivery outside in the back yard, there was always the option for creating a nice shelter for the critters. So, everything was always locked up tight and from daily use, never a problem about long term storage. Although, our Model A coupe we bought, even though it was stored in our neighbor's yard covered, there was evidence of mouse stuff inside.

    Note:

    So, if the little critters do not show up, where do they go? Well, we allow them to run around as they should in the far reaches of the yards and in our neighbor’s yard. He still uses traps and always complains about the odor and having to dispose of them. For some reason, he does not like those ultrasonic devices and sticks to the cheese/peanut butter methods.
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    There are so many made and it might be good to get the latest development in the device… 2024 updated or 2025 updated versions. We have several different brands in our house and garage. Different levels of ultrasound levels to get a larger range of effectiveness. Human/pet safe and usually last at least 3+ years or when the bluish light goes out. Each company has different standards, but they all work and work well… YRMV

    Now, that most companies have the bluish lights on to show it is working, the blue color gives off enough light to act as a room nightlight for those wandering around in the dark.
     
  8. AldeanFan
    Joined: Dec 12, 2014
    Posts: 998

    AldeanFan

    I drive the wagon until they salt the roads, then it gets pulled apart for winter upgrades.
    This winter I’m swapping the fordomatic to an AOD.
     
  9. manyolcars
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
    Posts: 9,370

    manyolcars

    I've always wondered why people are willing to put up with all that snow and ice when the living is easy here in the Deep South. We drive all year. I ride my Harley on Christmas and New Years
     
  10. i.rant
    Joined: Nov 23, 2009
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    1. 1940 Ford

    Tucked in until April 1 next year,:( at my friends home so my wife can use our garage during the winter. IMG_1031.jpeg
     
  11. corncobcoupe
    Joined: May 26, 2001
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    I don't put car covers on anything.

    For the winter, even though in my shop, open the hoods. trunks, glove boxes, consoles, roll down the windows, put tin foil balls in exhaust pipes, and air cleaner snout.
    I take out the batteries and put in my warm basement at home.
    I put Mice Hate Herb/Cloves cocktail bags in each car/truck.
    Those little SOB's are looking for a warm place to nest.
    I'm not going to give them one.

    The under a car cover like the 40 above is the Taj Mahal for them nesting.
    Hope you don't get any.
     
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  12. woodiewagon46
    Joined: Mar 14, 2013
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    from New York

    Another thing to remove from your car and bring it into a warmer area is any detail product that you use. A couple of years ago I went to use one of the products and found that all the water based product containers were cracked and empty from a freeze. Winter sucks!
     
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  13. BJR
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
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    I don't have a mouse problem in my shop. I always have mouse poison everywhere on the floor and in the corners. Every week or two I will find a dead critter lying on the floor. One thing I learned is always put the sun visors in the down position. If the mice get into the headliner they will build a nest above the sun visors. If they are down there is no support so no nest. I had a 60 T-Bird with a perfect headliner, except above the sun visors.
     
  14. topher5150
    Joined: Feb 10, 2017
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    It's that time of year again....half the reason why it's taking so long to build
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  15. Dooley
    Joined: May 29, 2002
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    from Buffalo NY

    2 feet of snow this weekend. I just pull her in the garage until the rain washes the salt away
     
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  16. i.rant
    Joined: Nov 23, 2009
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    25 years keeping my cars under a cover, never had a problem with mice. A little prevention beforehand goes a long way…..
     
  17. corncobcoupe
    Joined: May 26, 2001
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    Yet.....
    Consider yourself extremely lucky.
    Prevention is just a delay.
    You will have one or them eventually.
    They are crafty little buggers.
     
  18. Rusty Heaps
    Joined: May 19, 2011
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    East Tennessee is always a hit or miss in the winter. Maybe not this week, but next week will be nice for ride. IMG_1891.jpeg
     
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  19. 05snopro440
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    I've always wondered why people would want to live where there isn't winter to kill/deter some of the pests they live with. Gators/Snakes? No thanks.

    Besides, I like there being distinct seasons. I enjoy winter just as much as I enjoy summer. The only thing I don't like about winter is the resulting rust.
     
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    Coldest night of the year here, so far. Tucked away 'till April.
    We usually have several warm days over the winter and little to no snow so I take advantage of the warm days to drive it some and keep the battery up.
     
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  21. blue 49
    Joined: Dec 24, 2006
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    They say it will get to the 50s this weekend so I'm looking forward to taking my Henry J for a ride. The state highway near me has been brined in places so I plan to stick to county blacktops. My avatar pic was taken Christmas Eve day a couple of years ago, at a nearby County park.

    Gary
     
  22. Jacksmith
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    Having spent 45+ years near Chicago, I remember well the bleak winters when I'd use a "winter beater" to get to & fro during the cold salty road months.
    I'd squirrel parts all summer and work on the Hot Rods & Bikes all winter. We'd try to get 'em done & ready for a spring reveal by the weekend after Mother's Day.
    Out here in the Southwest we have Cars & Coffee all year... kinda nice.
    Hang in there, Spring will be here soon enough!
     
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  23. Living in the Sunny South means no car storage, we have very little snow so we can drive all winter long. HRP
     
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  24. I live where I live so I don’t have to be around too many people…
     
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  25. VF-1
    Joined: Jan 21, 2021
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    I usually have a project on the old ‘40 that requires the winter downtime. The weather in the St. Louis Metro area is certainly worst than California or Texas (previous homes), but we still get a few scattered days to get the Hotrod out for a drive. Our last big Rod Run is the third weekend in October. But… weather permitting, we have a New Year’s Day cruise that gives us something to look forward too. Hell, it was 60 degrees yesterday. You never know…
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  26. BJR
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
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    A friend of mine who runs a horse stable has another way to get rid of mice without poison. He mixes Plaster of Paris with flower or corn meal, and puts it where there are mice but is dry. The mice eat the mixture and the Plaster of Paris gets hard in their insides. It kills the mice, and it doesn't harm any other critter that eats the dead mouse.
     
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  27. LOU WELLS
    Joined: Jan 24, 2010
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    Not Quite Yet... 469797443_3927228900934695_5549308372404804448_n.jpg
     
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