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  1. Six Ball
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    Have you ever seen a Harper intake and carbs? They used 2 or 3 two barrels with the shaft split so one side of each carb worked as primaries and the other side as secondaries. The primaries could be progressive and then the secondaries kicking in all at once. A lot of linkage! But really cool and almost infinite adjustment. Rare and expensive. The one I got to check out closely used Strombergs but I don't know it they were 94s.
     
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  2. Tim
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    I have not but it sounds cool!
     
  3. Holley 2100 came on Pintos and was a progressive 2 barrel...a couple of them might work on your shivvy motor.
     
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    I’m thinking I’ll build it with a single 94 and if it needs more I’ll add more. But I keep walking by it mocked up and more surenlooks cool!
     
  5. Six Ball
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    Playing like that keeps us engaged. Mine is so buried somewhere in the shop it'll take a couple of days just to dig it back out.
     
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  6. Tim
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    a friend suggested two carter yh side drafts which would land me pretty dead on to my ideal cfm and they had a neat air cleaner set up or two I could copy from the triple carb set up on vette’s but I’m not sure I like that visual.

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  7. Six Ball
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    In the 60s I had a '40 Chevy pickup with a 261 and a Corvette intake with 3 YHs. The front of the hood on the left side would not quite latch. That old truck would only do about 80 mph bot it would do it between streetlights. I think vintage side drafts would be cool. Zenith mad a carb that could be refigured to be side or down draft. They are very hard to find.
     
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    The friend who thinks they would like cool just happens to have a pair... somewhere .
     
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    39A8FE99-7515-4C1D-BEB1-B6878B051588.jpeg Hmmmm, yeah I can see that causing hood interference
     
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  10. But think how cool they will be poking through the side of the hood! ;)
     
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  11. Tim
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    I’d build a blister before I let it hang out
     
  12. redzula
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    That sticks out far man that blister would be huge lol. Depending in scoop or air cleaner it might look cool with a blister and car carbs still sticking out of it
     
  13. Six Ball
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    Here are some sid drafts on the Spurgin/Giovanine roadster running the early Chevy four and a 3X1 setup with the Zenith side drafts mentioned above. Note on the four the carbs bolt directly to the head. upload_2017-6-4_20-58-45.jpeg 4899453743_7558ff6a5c_z.jpg 423401_4240216736131_1085283099_n-1.jpg
     
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  14. Tim
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    I like where your heads at @Six Ball
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    Played a little bit this morning before heading to work...

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    Bolted some random 40’s carters to the head to get an idea of actual space available.
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    Think I’d ditch the vette style filter and do a small open/ sandwich style filter on each or maybe one long oval that fits both of I can find an easy to source filter.

    I’d have to keep the intake manifold really short. Thinking real short with some sort of balance tube may work. 9E2420F1-680C-47C6-B24C-9CC2044F18AB.jpeg Hung this little sbc header on while I was at it.

    Havnt got far enough to see if it actualy clears the stock single intake or it id would let me bolt the side drafts in real close but I’m jist having fun bolting stuff to it for the moment.

    The side drafts would certainly de clutter the space visually. Could run the balance tube between the carbs under the center exhaust primary’s to tuck it all in.

    Hmmm.

    Just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks
     

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  15. Six Ball
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    I think you can make it work. You are full of ideas.
     
  16. Tim
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    Yeah I’m rarely short on ideas haha
     
  17. What about some SUs?
     
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    Haven’t given it a thought as of yet but I’m not opposed to the idea :) where would a fella find such a carb?
     
  19. Britsh stuff. MGs and the like. Neat looking carbs.
     
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    440AA2D5-7AE5-4B1D-A889-7001338F4133.jpeg Looks pretty much like the rest of the photos but the valve cover is in one piece, bolted to the adapter, and the adapter finally to the head.

    Needs plenty of finishing. Trimming, filling, sanding and painting but it’s finally on.

    I bolted the thermostat housing on and mocked up a quick upper radiator hose. The housing is going to need a little bit of grinding to fully clear but just barely. A flap disc will probably be enough.
     
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  21. Tim
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    Just thought I’d pop in real quick.

    Cars sitting under a gross blue tarp so I can leave it alone for a while and get the 46 sorted and back on the road for the summmer
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    Had a towing incedent after a parts failure on the freeway and I’ve been walking past it since September pretending it would fix itself.

    As such it has not lol. I have so far managed to get most of the damage out pretty quick so I’m hoping the last of it doesn’t fight me to much and I can get back into a summer routine of it being driven. A lot.

    In model A news I did find myself with a mercruiser finned side plate/ side cover making its way to me. I should have it he end of next month. :)

    Current plans remain to focus on the 46 and pick at the steering on the A. I’ll need to drill out the lock on the column, add a steering wheel I don’t currently possess, weld up the steering box bracket, mount it and build a drag link.

    Simple right? Sure lol I’m sure I only left outhalf a dozen steps.

    I just want to be able to roll it outside sometime this summer. No lofty goals at the moment
     
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  22. Six Ball
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    Yeah, You have to get the '46 back on the road. I'm catching up on things I've let slide on my 3 drivers. They all quit in a two day period a few weeks back. My '53 pickup got new front springs and brakes and a change of wheels and a couple of new tires. I let laziness trump maintenance, it didn't turn out well. :D
     
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  23. Tim
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    Yeah felt weird to not spend April waxing and greasing it.

    Soon enough.... I hope
     
  24. redzula
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    So just reread you're whole thread got a little too into pictures and hadn't been actually reading turns out that's a good way to get lost on what you're actually doing haha.

    Really nothing to throw into the intake exhaust setup it her than the first I saw the intake and exhaust setup I thought of the metropolitan I use to have funny that you ended up there eventually.

    For the valve cover couldn't you weld the wing nut to the all thread and save yourself a step. Basically make a wing nut bolt. Might make it a little easier.
     
  25. Tim
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    I probably could. But for now I think it’ll be easier to have the studs threaded to the plate and I’ll jist skip to cover over them and put the wing nuts on.

    Need to figure out how I want to put oil in this thing or have it vent.

    This one came to me with a cap in the valve cover for oil and a tube that went to the ground for “breathing”

    I’d considered a 90 deg breather on the far side of the cover but it think it’d be cluttered fast
     
  26. Six Ball
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    On mine I am going to use 2 small breathers on the ignition side of the rocker cover. I am using an electric fuel pump and will make an oil filler tube that uses the fuel pump mount on the block. I am also using a remote oil filter so that will un-clutter some of that area by the motor mount.
     
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  27. Tim
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    I had thought about a filler tube on the ignition side but if I can keep a mech pump I’d preferred it. Even though it would clean stuff up quite a bit.

    Thought about remote filter as well but figured it would likely either end up cluttering the firewall or be under the car where it makes it more work to maintain
     
  28. Tim
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    If I did a 90 breather or a “slobber tube” as I’m calling it, I could just fill it threw one of those I suppose.

    I have seen a few that had an oil fill cap and a pcv out of the valve cover but didn’t see a breather.

    May have been remote like on the fuel pump boss?
     
  29. Six Ball
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    You could put a breather on the side cover too or it can breathe through the filler cap too.
     
  30. 41rodderz
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    Yes go for the side draft.:cool: On my 27 Tudor with a 240/300 inliner with a top part of hood I am think side drafts would look better hanging out then a 4 barrel or twin 2 barrels sticking up through a hole.:D
     
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