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  1. Tim
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    Cool, I put a 327 in my Nissan Altima a few years ago haha. Didn’t seem any faster lol
     
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    Picking away at the 46 and brain storming model A in the mean time. Been finding some great content here on the hamb if you dig beyond the first few pages and it’s given me a lot of great ideas.

    Figured I’d share a few builds I enjoyed in case you need some distraction this holiday season haha

    Great full fender, Flathead roadster pickup

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ld-build-thread-first-try-at-a-hotrod.929098/


    A very clean sport coupe build

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-tale-of-my-29.1114472/


    Low buck T&A. Roadster pickup

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...-roadster-pickup.1043128/page-3#post-12868105

    High school hot rod being redirected, 26 coupe

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/26t-coupe-of-my-youth-gets-a-re-do-build.1131849/

    The big one! Aaron has put together one of the most tech heavy threads I’ve seen for a while, using videos to show you what’s going on and updating you on the build.

    Can’t say enough about how helpful the videos are when understanding a new process

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/aarons-29-av8-coupe-build.1027487/

    Happy holidays guys :)
     
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    AE1AD692-94C3-486A-9063-0E4B9D04CABD.jpeg I have no idea how I didn’t think of this but it looks like @justabeater37 is running the Clifford 4 barrel intake with a common adapter to run two 97’s on his 153. Looks pretty good!
     
  4. Six Ball
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    It's too simple we were thinking too hard. :D I'd like to see the other side of this one. Lifted from another thread here.
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    Bet it’s the same thing but a triple
     
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    I also have a 3 deuce intake from a 250 I am going to cut down like six ball did. I am worried about sheer and maintaining the mixture with all of the turns the Clifford and adapter have. Possible a turtle in the Clifford may help. Hope to get it going this year after my 63 is done and the Chari-T is gone.
     
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    Well maybe when I win the chari-t I’ll just come pick it up and check out the set up on the black one :)
     
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    9A91E6E3-F8C7-4481-808E-6314C59D2445.jpeg Well @Austin kays had these leaning against the wall in his garage when we were wrestling the crossmember swap and so of course I had to try them. DCFD777D-9D67-4988-834C-1062C2B71EB3.jpeg C4E77549-74EE-49CC-BB3C-E6CB257AEED3.jpeg 854CCF32-CDF5-404F-92D0-5AD53AB3F22B.jpeg

    Surprisingly the clearnpretty much everything! Didn’t have to move anything and they snaked right down in there. I have them spaced off the head about an inch and the only thing in the way would be the two center primary’s coming out to far and hitting the intake.

    I think they came of a 4x4 c10 I’ll have to see if I can find them in a catalog. They don’t look quite as “old times” as I’d like but I’ve been struggling with the idea of spending s good chunk of cash making the head flow and the. Sticking a restrictive header/manifold on it. So I might give this some more consideration.
     
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  9. Keep going, little buddy. And Merry Christmas to you and yours.
     
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    You too @Rocky ! Hope Santa brings you something fun:)
     
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    I took the Chari-T out for a spin to town. After an hour cruising, I can definitely say the heat doesn't work. May have to come up with some heated seats for the black one.
     
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    Yeah I drove the 46 to work Saturday and on the way home I remember all that heat blocking insulation I loved so much in the summer isn’t as great when it’s 30 deg and your on the interstate lol. With no top I’d assume heated seats would probably be more effective
     
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    Mostly because I’ll forget if I do t post it here but I’m pretty sure these are what those headers are. Hooker is the only one I’m finding with that funny bend off the center primary FDA1FA0F-0581-430F-A37B-79C7688D2638.png 513E9F76-4119-4F23-A35C-8BF9A14CCF49.jpeg
     
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    Look about right. I have a couple sets of them around. I should see if it clears the manifold.
     
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    It sure is fun to see the people do a double take when you pass them on the interstate. Although, the wind chill at 85 mph gets a bit much...
     
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    It hits the heat riser on my stock manifold. Thinking I could build a tube manifold that has a little rise in it simular to a lot of the ones you see for ford bangers
     
  17. Six Ball
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    Yeah, those are the headers I cuss on my '68 flatbed. They make spark plug changes a pain and starter replacement an all day deal. They like to melt plug wires too. One would be much different on a four.
     
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    Yeah I bet.

    It makes me curious if this build a set would fit the same space now that I know that they can clear so easy and clear the steering by lots and lots of room.

    I wouldn’t have to add to the primaries where they meet the flange because they come long, I’d just cut to size. They also look nice and curvy.

    Could use bends from the other half to build an intake lol.

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    Just say dreaming for the moment but it does give some possibility.

    Curious if anyone cuts new flanges for this motors? Be nice to get intake and exhaust on one single piece.
     
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    I bought a set of exhaust flanges on eBay. I made an exhaust flange from a six cylinder set. I don't know about having intake and exhaust as one piece. That eliminates any aluminum intake.
     
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    Ill have to give it a look, I’ve got a sheet of 1/4 plate we keep making things out of so I’m leaning towards that + gasket + laser= flange.

    I think what will determines wether i make it all one piece or not is the header design. If it clears the stock intake I may make it a two piece set up so I can in theory use other 153 I takes such as the Clifford or hillborn.

    I guess you could make a bolt on manifold bolt to the long flange but that doubles the amount of gaskets and leaks possible. Where welding it all up into one unit gets rid of one gasket surface.

    It does make it more difficult to get on and off the car, and it would require the intake to come off any time the exhaust comes off, but I’m not so sure it wouldnt have to anyways because of the tight clearance with the center primaries.
     
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    A newly made, old style, belond header that shows an option for the collector not being the same size as the primary’s. Not real in love with the visible step in the tube but I guess it would flow better than it all being the same size and it looks “era correct”

    Can’t believe that the intake and exhaust has been the thing I’ve been the most hung up on with this car lol A7CD2A5B-1504-47BD-9567-41EBA2BE9182.jpeg 896DB0C9-6B81-4E59-B03C-6C6DE9182436.jpeg
     
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    6B9A8C72-D085-41CF-894C-2B39DA2432D8.jpeg Thought I’d blow your minds and post something that isn’t about a damn header.
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    I got a drag link and rod ends for Christmas! I used another of the dropped ends on one side and a standard tie rod end on the box side of things 0287E5B8-827C-483B-9B11-EFB891DBE569.jpeg as you can see here the drag link runs up hill to the pitman arm a little. It looks exaggerated with the angle and lighting BCA0C769-494F-48E6-82E2-FD553C963619.jpeg tie rod lands about 9.5 to the top from the ground ~ car is sitting on dollies right now it’s not actually that high
    F801360C-DC6C-46C9-B393-EE847279516E.jpeg The drag link is closer to 11.5 A59AF1FE-6AF3-4163-BAC8-39CBFFFC2379.jpeg My plan to get them pretty close to level is to taper the pitman arm from the bottom and flip the rod end around.

    I already need to taper the bottom of the passenger side steering arm to hand the rod off it so it’s just one more hole to do. Then it’s on to cementing the box mount as it’s only hanging by a few bolts and a clamp. Then drilling the set pin out of the column lock so I can see if I get to driveway steer this thing before the box gets rebuilt or not.
     
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  23. Six Ball
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    I was thinking something else. Something like that would work. In my case the flange plate could be used to make the transition from the larger 153 exhaust ports to the smaller V8 ports on my Fenton cast header. I think the two gasket surfaces would be OK.
     
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    Yeah there’s a million ways to go about it.
     
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    Looks like @sdroadster is building a merc/Chevy A as well! Looks like he’s got the same cover I’m using mocked up and had mentioned running a dual carb intake for a banger like in some of the photos we’ve shared previously.
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    There will be a bunch of faux frontys around
     
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    Never seen one in person haha. Thought I was clever I’d never seen it done.
     
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    There was a truck in either Street Rodder or Rod and Custom I stole the idea from.
     
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    I think the guy who runs Newport engineering, the windshield wiper place, owns that truck. Though I haven’t seen photos in a long time.

    Curious to see how others make it work. I ended up cutting mine in half because it wouldn’t clear the fire wall/ thermostat housing if I didn’t.

    I feel like it looks better with out the over hang so I suppose I’m happy with my choice to cut it instead of the firewall but it sure did open a can of worms that I still haven’t totally
    Cleaned up.
     
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  30. Six Ball
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    That build has some nice details. Is there a build thread for it? I decided not to use my Fronty valve cover. I may save it for the '28 Chevy with the Olds 3 port head.
     

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