What an accomplishment that will be to have the sub rails in! Fingers crossed it all goes in nice and easy like!
There is literally no way that will happen but it’s good to have a dream lol I anticipate it being a pain in the butt and taking 5 times as long as planned
Hey I recognize those sub rails! Hehe god had a couple flash backs to channeling my car [emoji51] Sent from my iPhone using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
Ended up throwing some bracing in tonight and getting everything straighter than it was you can see here how rotten the sill plate area of the door is. I’m going to go buy square tubing tomorrow morning and pick away at gutting this old stuff out and replacing the toe board areas so Sunday we can just get to work making the new parts.
How do those tanks fill? The saddle tanks I've got, each one has a cap less modern style filler. Just cut a hole in the apron... Sent from my SM-G977U using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
No automobile manufacturer ever felt that it was necessary to add the extra weight of square tubing for a floor. It simply isnt needed and the next owner will have to cut it out and do it right
This literally has no subrails at all, I spent over a year collecting off cast parts to try and patch a set together and when all said and done it was welding rusty metal to rusty metal. It would have been more time and effort for a weaker result. I can’t afford new subrails, so box it will be. I’m basically mirroring the stock set up. I’m not going crazy with it like I see some people doing. More or less replacing top hat with box. If I sell it and the next guy wants it different we’ll thats that guy’s problem. @flatout51 yeah I think they just take an elbow and a cap on the apron. Right now I’m thinking I’ll use two stock gas caps so it doesn’t stick out to much but I am leery of how slow you’d have to fill them because your not going to be able to put a lot of the gas nozzle into it. Thought about seeing if maybe the motorcycle aftermarket has a telescoping neck or something? I have to fill the 46 pretty slow/ shallow so I guess it’s probably not that big of deal but I figure with the filler so close to the ground that I’d like to make it as easy as possible.
Fun to watch your progress. The two steps forward one step back approach is the norm I believe. There is a bunch of this about to happen here. We are pricing steel now. We are going to build a frame table first to use on my frame and frames of the future. I need to stick the body together so I can see what needs to happen with the frame. It's a Chevy so lots of wood to consider or eliminate. Also I am finding that some of the parts I have been collecting for years will actually be used on another build, maybe mine.
Yeah it really is. If your doing it yourself and on any sort of budget it’s just the way it is. All part of the learning curve I suppose.
So glad my friends are jumping in. I'm not one to ask for help but I now see that my roadster would NEVER get built without help. There would just be excuses and an ever increasing pile of parts. The only things I really need is a better welder and a 5 gallon can of "Get Off Your Lazy Ass". I think they sell it at Eastwood.
Dude I wouldn’t get shit done with out friends. Maybe when I was younger and didn’t have a family. But now? I need my friends.
When my dad was running the ones I have I bought him a couple motorcycle filler necks and caps. Worked pretty well. He said they worked well just sucks having to move the car to fill the other tank. Sent from my SM-G977U using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
Tim, on our trip to the drags, Purser figured the mileage on my 6 banger roadster and it was 30 mpg. so you won't have to fill it up often. I figure I can go 450 miles till completely empty. I only fill it 2 or 3 times a year. Lol...I had a 31 A sedan with the same tanks as David. When I filled it, I just passed the hose thru the doors to her side, then fill the other side.
Dang that’s great mpg! I bet if you went to a rural gas station that has the longer hoses you could reach both of you parked far forward and close to the pump. Though the visual of passing the hose threw is pretty great hahA
Tim, no, we got gas anywhere with no problem on hose length. Its not very far across the doors on a Model A, just pulled up close and stopped in the right place. Oh yea, that T5 in my roadster really helps with the mpg
I was meaning the long hoses would let you go around the back on the outside. Yeah getting the rev’s where you want them, and keeping weight way down can really make a world of difference. Looking forward to finding out
Not to a point really worth rambling about but we got a few more hours in. The more we cut away and prepare for the new pieces the more the plan takes shape and we have a little clearer idea of what we want to do. Firewall braced to the floor so we could pull the passenger side cowl foot out. The extra/donor chunk of cowl/ firewall I have was priceless during this process. There are so many rivets bits and folds that hold it together that you can’t see when it’s on the car. We would have been swearing at it for hours with out it. And honestly if the old one wasn’t trash and sacrificial I do t really know how you’d get it apart with out a LOT of time involved New foot waiting to get cleaned up and painted. I’m also going to inlarge the 4 holes that rivet to the firewall. I’m for the moment replacing them with bolts and they are tiny holes. I’ll knock them up a size so I can use a 7/16 Save for some paper thin door sills that’s the entire scrap pile Clearly this cardboard box of tetanus was not worth saving going to fit the new cowl foot, clean up, paint parts with rustolium rusty primer before they go together and prepare to start fitting new metal Sunday. After we figure out exactly what we are going to do I’ll give a more in-depth post about the how’s a s whys and the “to comes”
The “parts” cowl bits. This helped a ton so I figured even a crummy photo of how the other side is still on could help sone one. Cowl side folds under and there are a few rivers holding it to the subrail cant see them all in the photo but that’s where you’d need to look
Got the cowl foot 99% in today. Need to get one more hole to line up While cleaning up and painting the sections you won’t be able to see with rustolium rust primer I found 4, what looks to be spot welds threw the bottom fold of the cowl side- which is longer than just the tab on my spare parts one when I looked at the new foot it had 4 holes where I’m assuming a rivet or spot weld must have gone threw the skin into the foot. Maybe @BigJoeArt remembers what was going on when he took the side panel off? I’ll ask him either way, figured I’d post a photo of my hand pointing at the holes so when I take the body off the frame to address stuff I can’t reach currently I will have a nice “note to self” about the existing
Hoping to weld the new metal in this sunday and push the car back in the corner maybe monday or Tuesday. Then it’s onto finishing the buff and polish on the 46’ roof. after than onto some small fab projects. The steering and floor are the big hurdles I wanted done before baby 2
@Inked Monkey lol yeah I guess I just blur them out in my head. If I cut them I’ll start in on a whole long list of “while I’m at it’s” and get distracted. It bugs me, I’m just not picking at it. is on the list however for this winter. I had the idea of trailering it to Pete and Jakes all cleaned up and mocked up looking like a car for the open house. But greaserama might be more realistic.
Well after a trip to a friends lath and some filing the small tube for the end of the column still wouldn’t quite fit. after some conversation we decided I should just slit it and see it it fit. so I chucked the porta band in a vice and to a slice out of both sides at the same time. It went on but not far enough to easy enough. so I stuck two wrenches in there and spread it some. Slide it over the steering column and tapped it over the box with a hammer. Some channel locks got it back off and now it fits just perfect by hand. gotta trim both ends and weld it up, re spray the bottom black and I can finally stick the column, adapter and wheel on for real!
Chainsaws and band saws....the two tools that scare me most. I guess that was instilled in me by my dad....as I kid I was convinced the band saw was less than an inch from death if I got close to it. LOL Nice job on the column fit....but really I just want to point out my envy of the pinstriped vise.
Haha my buddy neko came and striped a bunch of my shop and the I beat on it for a couple years. Looks perfect now lol. Power tools in general are nothing to be takin lightly. Less than an inch away probably is about about accurate. this morning I got the last bolt in the cowl foot. I used a jack to lift the body up off the frame and rapped on it with a hammer trying to get it aligned. I really needed a spud wrench to push them around but what I eventually got to work is the bolt fit threw both holes very slanted. I stuck a nut on it and started cranking it right and it pulled it all into alignment. Didn’t seem to mess up any threads and it did t fight me at all. A little mechanical leverage does wonders. popped over to the drivers side and pulled off the wooden running board and crusty apron so we have room to weld Sunday. the old front fenders and the crusty aprons will go to @Inked Monkey because we are trying to convince him a T on A rails would be even cooler with A fenders. Haha Buddy is going to weld up the column tonight not sure if I’ll get to fit it before Sunday. update as they happen
In 1966 I was "tailing off" a big band saw at the molding plant of a saw mill in Martel CA. The other guy was pushing woo in and I was pulling it out. The blade broke, hit the table and flew out into the shop. It was about a 2 1/2" blade. Luckily no one was hurt but scared shitless. We took the blade to the saw shop where they welded it back together. We were back at work after lunch. I have great respect for all power tools. Good to watch your progress.
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