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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by sickboi55, Oct 27, 2016.

  1. sickboi55
    Joined: Aug 14, 2005
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    LONGGGGGG time lurker, dont post much as my oldest car is a 65 Cadillac. I am looking at a truck near me and have a question. It is a 34 (at least the cab is) but is titled as a 32. This seems odd, however I do not know if this is normal for something so old.

    here is the link to the truck
    http://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/5811916721.html

    any help will be GREATLY appreciated.
     
  2. tfeverfred
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    It happens. If you buy it, don't claim it's a Deuce in hot rod company. Oh...... punch him in the head for putting those DUB wheels and tires on it.:mad:
     
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  3. Could have had a cab swap at some time in its life. Go with the serial number stamped in the frame.
     
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  4. Petejoe
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    agreed. And rip out that ugly looking steering column in there.
    The grille shell isnt 34 either.
    Nice solid looking truck from the pictures but too much money for my tastes.
     
  5. The cab is indeed a '34 and the frame looks to be a 33/34,the only deuce looking part is the radiator shell.

    95% of the people don't know the difference in the 32.33.34 Fords. HRP
     
  6. sickboi55
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    Wheels are goin bye bye. I think with some tasteful de-ugly measures it will look alot better. I just dont know what it is. The number on the title starts with a T, which doesnt match anything I can find for an early ford. Just want to make sure I am not getting something that is going to be crap.
     
  7. F&J
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    wow

    bogus serial number
    from Fla C/L
    Indiana plates
    Texas title

    are you feeling lucky?
     
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  8. sickboi55
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    I dont know that the VIN is bogus. Just doesn't match what i can find in the mighty google.
     
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  9. He's got a real good point there. I would think really hard about how to verify that 1st. I'm stupid and that has my ears perking up.
     
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  10. sickboi55
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    The sheriff is coming to verify the vin tomorrow.
     
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  11. Original 34 VIN will start with 18- if it is a V8, or B- if it were a 4 cylinder.
    If it were Canadian it would be C18A, C18E etc. There were no 4 cylinder Canadian 34's m(33 would be CBT-
     
  12. does the serial number on the frame match the title? maybe Indiana only requires a bill of sale to register
     
  13. metalman
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    You say the vin starts with a "T". By chance is the next letter a "X"? Might have a state issued vin which would be a legit legal vin. All state issued vin's have the issuing states ID in it somewhere, here ours start with NM, I had a Colorado title and the vin ended in COLO. If it's not a state issued vin then I'd be wary because it doesn't sound like a Ford vin, by law only manufactures or states can issue a vin. Could cause grief down the road.
    I agree, those wheels are horrible! Other then that and a few other things it needs changed it doesn't seem too bad a deal for a running, driving street rod.
     
  14. That's due diligence, right on.
     
  15. Odds are the Sheriff will not have a clue. All he will be able to do is run the number
     
  16. sickboi55
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    So the number starts with a T and is followed by 7 numbers. The seller purchased the truck from a guy in Texas, the title is signed by the old seller, but the current seller never put it in his name as he only drove it around his "older" community a few times with the (obviously illegal) indiana tag. I told him I couldnt buy it if the title was not in his name. So he is in the process of transferring it to him, which includes a LEO vin check. Starting with a T and being from Texas could indicate a state assigned vin. But to me that seems to decrease value significantly, and why the hell is it titled as a 32 with no 32 parts (minus grill). I really need some guidance here, I dont feel like getting burned.
     
  17. flamedabone
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    A little off your question, but make SURE you can fit in it. Not just sitting in it, but stepping on the pedals too.

    Good luck, -Abone.
     
  18. Won't mention any names, but know a guy who bought a '32 basket case with no papers and used a '31 model A p.u. pink slip to register it. Sold it 30 years ago and never heard another word about it. These things happen........
     
  19. Most people, even those who know cars , including the DMV and LEO can't tell a 32,33,34 truck apart. The reason it has a 32 title is because it doesn't have a 34 title. You can make up any story you want to fill in the blank, you can even add famous people into it.
     
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  20. Gman0046
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    I'd ask the seller how much he wants for it without the wheels.

    Gary
     
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  21. I think you really need to keep looking for a much better truck. 12500 for that. No way in my mind. Tell him he can keep the wheels steering column and motor and then offer him 4500 for it. Unless that is what you have in your mind as your dream truck. There's better deals right here on the hamb.
     
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  22. Yeah, 12,500 with the wheels, 15,000 without!:p:p:p
     
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  23. Mr48chev
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    I can't remember if Texas gave me a tag to rivet on or just the assigned vin to stamp in the frame of the T bucket I built in Texas in the 70's but someone else might know what they did.
    Looking at info on the net (if you google Texas assigned vin number) It's the third link down "Notice of assigned vin installation" it says the assigned vin should be either stamped on the door post or on the frame in front of the firewall if it doesn't have door posts. If you have the vin written down I'd call the Texas dmv Here is a link that if you click over on regional service center it will bring up the service centers http://www.txdmv.gov/regional-service-centers I'd ask them if the vin you have is a good assigned vin. Tell them that all you want is a yes/no answer. If you had the title number that may help too.
     
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  24. image.jpg Here's a buy at 12500. California truck too. 1930 roadster pickup. Probly get it for around 9-10 who's knows.
     
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  25. sickboi55
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    So the last post made me realize I haven't updated my location. I am no longer stationed in San Diego, I am actually in Jacksonville, FL. On another note, I will try calling today about the VIN. The guy went down to 11,500, so I figure add steelies with tall and skinnies, better exhaust, upholstery, and de-ugly the motor and I will have a decent little rod without a ton of cash outlay.
     
  26. studebaker46
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    did the sheriff verify the vin. a lot of these old hotrods have titles other than what they really are if he has already came down a $1000 maby 10000 will buy it asking for opinions is always sketchy. remember it is you$$$ pick a no you can live with and don't look back. it could be a cool little drive in a couple of weekends of tinkerin Tom
     
  27. bchctybob
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    If you buy it, check to see if you can correct the year on the new registration. In California you can usually correct a small error on the title by filling out and signing a "Statement of Facts" explaining the error/correction. Of course it always depends on which DMV office you go to, what time of day it is and whether the DMV officer has had their coffee/lunch yet.
    If the fact that it's a '34 registered as a '32 really bugs you, that may set the record straight. In reality it only rears it's ugly head when you are buying it or selling it. Like someone else said, don't try to pass it off as a deuce.
     
  28. I probably should not admit this but I have a thing for '34 Ford pickups and at least once a year one of you fellas has to tell me the difference in the cab between a '34 and a Deuce. I can usually tell a '34 from a Deuce if they are parked close to each other and pretty complete but if I was looking at a Deuce or 34 cab for sale I would have to ask someone. It is just one of those things that has never really stuck in my head. :oops:
     
  29. bchctybob
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    Here you go 'Beaner - The big ugly blister running across the back of the cab under the rear window is one dead give-away. I've always wondered why they added that?
    \'34pickup.jpg
     
  30. Well now I don't have to ask again until next year. Thanks :D

    If I had to guess I would guess that it had to do with marketing a new truck without a complete redesign and retool. But that would just be a guess.
     

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